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Do repeaters degrade accuracy by their nature?
« on: May 08, 2021, 08:13:19 PM »
     I seem to be having a 'love/hate' relationship with the ample magazine and easy cocking of my Impact. Having cut my PCP teeth on a big bore, I got very used to a single shot. From there I went from an Armada to a Streamline to an Impact (all .25)  I seem to be rushing shots much more now than I have in recent memory.
     I harken back to when I was a youth and with my own money bought a Sears & Roebuck single shot 12 ga. ($69.00) I hit everything with that little gun. It had a 30" full choke barrel so I learned to wait when I had to (quail), timed doves pass shooting perfectly, and was even able to jump ducks, shoot one as it took off and then have time to reload and get another if still in range. I was presented a Remington 1100 some years later and proceeded to fill the skies with lead in the hopes that something would fly through the flak and be hit. I lost the patience and care of taking one shot. I couldn't hit anything with it. It was just heavy and cost me a lot of money to shoot. I went back to the single shot and would still be shooting it today if it hadn't been stolen.
     I feel like it's happening all over again. With the high capacity mag and ridiculously fast cocking of the Impact I find myself shooting way too fast and too much. If I take more than a few shots at a target and miss (especially when you don't know where your pellet/slug is hitting) I should just concede. It's my fault for not knowing my distance/dope chart and being unprepared. But yet I just keep launching, trying for that 'miracle' shot. It's creating bad habits.
     I bought a single shot tray (expensive little bastard) a while ago but never installed it. I'm seriously thinking about sticking that baby on. I need to do some bench work anyway with ammo comparisons and redoing a dope chart to include slugs. It might be useful then and more than anything it's going to force me to slow down when hunting.


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Re: Do repeaters degrade accuracy by their nature?
« Reply #1 on: May 09, 2021, 05:32:00 AM »
I loaded my old Cobra one at a time. Yes, doing so, makes you a bit more conservative with respect to aiming. But like you, I have found that you do shoot more ammo, and sometimes don't give yourself time to aim more exactly.

I can't speak for you....

One of the issues about the Impact, is the trigger. Some say it is better on the MKII, than the MkIII. I can't say, because I don't own a MkIII yet. This said, I have my first stage all but non existent, and the second stage set for about 5 ounces. Sometimes, I get antsy, and lower my finger too quickly, and bang, a premature shot. On the other hand, I shoot a lot offhand. Here, you need a very quick touch off if you expect to have a decent percentage of kills. So it is a nix-naks scenario, best set to your shooting style.
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Re: Do repeaters degrade accuracy by their nature?
« Reply #2 on: May 09, 2021, 07:03:48 AM »
Nothing to do with the trigger or technical stuff. I can shoot just fine with multiple types of trigger pulls. It's the fact that I KNOW that I have innumerable backup shots at my disposal. I don't care about the cost of ammo, it's the level of marksmanship that's going away because of my cavalier attitude.

I guarantee that if I had one shot and had to make it count that I would pay much closer attention to an accurate dope chart and make my shot count.

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Re: Do repeaters degrade accuracy by their nature?
« Reply #3 on: May 09, 2021, 07:25:29 AM »
Nothing to do with the trigger or technical stuff. I can shoot just fine with multiple types of trigger pulls. It's the fact that I KNOW that I have innumerable backup shots at my disposal. I don't care about the cost of ammo, it's the level of marksmanship that's going away because of my cavalier attitude.

I guarantee that if I had one shot and had to make it count that I would pay much closer attention to an accurate dope chart and make my shot count.

You are a much better shot than me, especially when shooting offhand. I will admit to struggling with my blasted frozen shoulders. I end up rushing a shot as my wiggly movement increases with length of time of holding the rifle steady. Then there’s my rather ragged breathing and chest tension / discomfort.

Even the Streamline with it’s ten shots encourages a fellow to speed up his shots.

I was a bit envious with that huge magazine that Kevin’s Impact has, and being bottle fed the number shots he can take before refill. But then again I really am enjoying the lightness of the Streamline.

I’m really considering removing that 10x SWFA and putting on a lighter 1-6x or so scope to reduce weight even more. Going to do a scope inventory and probably switch things around. A fixed 10x works ok most of the time, but sometimes it’s really hard to find that starling that just landed 20 feet in front of me.

As I’ve said before any of my airguns will do the job IF I do mine. For me that means slowing down and taking a shot when it’s more of a sure thing, and of course controlling my breathing, and reducing my tension.



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Re: Do repeaters degrade accuracy by their nature?
« Reply #4 on: May 09, 2021, 08:10:43 AM »
Here is another factor I had to "relearn".

These days, I typically shoot wearing my Serengeti sun glasses (they're REAL glass!). Always thought they were the best money could buy. Apparently, they're not!

I used to wear my B&L, yellow-tinted shooting glasses (they were REAL glass too!), and always shot better wearing them. One day, it dawned on me! I took my Serengeti's to my eye doc (personal friend, and fellow amateur radio operator), and had him measure them for spherical aberrations. Right where I looked through them (scope picture), was a distortion (aberration) which caused the apparent focus to be off a bit. Enough offset, that long range shots were being affected.

I broke (frame) those old B&Ls, and set out to get another pair. No luck, as B&L stopped making them, due to the fact they were real glass! Now, I have to settle on plastic lenses (thanks to all those litigating, blood-sucking, lawyers). And as good as they are, they're not perfect either. Last time I bought a pair, I had to go through about 10 pair to get ones without an aberration.
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Re: Do repeaters degrade accuracy by their nature?
« Reply #5 on: May 09, 2021, 11:41:42 AM »
Much hilarity when I go out back and shoot with my computer glasses on. Not! Talk about fuzzy.
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