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steveoh

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500 yards with airguns
« on: July 14, 2019, 06:29:50 PM »
Yep, 500 + yards (I think 520 yards) with an Airgun is like aiming a mortar. But it was fun and we smacked steel and made 2 liter sodas send up plumes of sugary, caramel colored,  fizzy water all over the place.

Met Kevin and Randy on a farm in Petaluma T 8am for a morning of stretching out to 500+ yards.

I brought my .257 Texan, .257 Citrus, and my .58 Quackenbush Outlaw Pistol. I brought two SCBA tanks, a back up Ninja, and the new 12volt compressor, way too much lead projectiles (aka cast lead bullets), chrony, targets, steel fence posts, The Born Wild Shooting Chair, etc.

I had changed scopes on both rifles and needed to get sighted in, so I hung steel at 50 yards, and put my big steel plate at a hundred yards.

Got the Texan sighted in but then the scope started acting strange and the reticle refuse to allow adjustments. So I got a plastic faced hammer out of the truck and smacked the scope half a dozen times. That seemed to do the trick, I think. I was able to adjust for windage finally and proceeded to smack steel at the daunting 500 yards. Of course Kevin had been smacking that 500yard steel for quite a while.

I was shooting at the extreme end of my 6x magnificent and was pointing many yards above the target. Holy Mortar Batman.

Sighted in the Citrus and promptly ran out of Mildots when I pointed to the target. Interestingly to get the same velocity of the Texan I have to fill to 3600-3700 psi. The Texan likes around 2850psi.  Efficiency is a thing

I played with the DAQ .58 for a bit and easy hit steel at 50 yards. I had a handful of round balls I’d drilled in to see if I could replicate Roman whistling sling balls. Alas only one gave me a sort of satisfying whistle. Going to try again and get more precise, and see if I can’t bring a little whistling terror back from history.

Randy showed up with a mighty purty American Air Arms. Flinging that hollow point bullet made a mighty interesting whirling sound.

Kevin mostly shot his Texan and put us all to shame with his long distance  shooting in-spite of changing out his scopes.

The wind she blew. I held to the right by 4+ feet at times.

A few pictures and a video to come.

Great day and worth the sunburn!
« Last Edit: July 15, 2019, 07:44:48 AM by steveoh »


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Re: 500 yards with airguns
« Reply #1 on: July 14, 2019, 08:04:12 PM »
Fun shoot. The last time we shot we hit the big 30" steel at will with it set at 400 yards. Putting the smaller target at 400 this time and the large one at 500 was definitely a lot more challenging.

I fought the sight-in time of changing scopes first thing in the morning and utilizing my no-limit rings. Once dialed in it was still a little inconsistent at 500 yards. Both wind and elevation played a little havoc but it did have some revelations. The new NOE 155 BT w/HP mold that I received from NOE is very, very accurate at long range. It seems that the hollowpoint version was especially so. I was hitting the 400 yard steel (about a 15"x20" piece) about 5 out of 6 shots in the wind. Hitting the bottles at 500 yards was a gas. Messing with the no-limit rings is an all-in proposition. No use putting targets inside of 300 yards as it just gets too difficult to hold under enough to achieve any consistency.

It seems as if 500 yards is about enough for me distance-wise. It's really difficult to achieve consistency at that distance for elevation and especially windage. The difference between 400 and 500 is lot performance-wise. Good bullets, regulators, and ok shooting skills can achieve a bit of consistent results (12" group and under) at 400 but 500 is a different story.

Now that I feel that I've effectively 'found' the range limit that I think I'm capable of dealing with I'm going to refocus on sub-200 yards and consistent accuracy. With the performance of the NOE 154 (for me they are dropping at 148 for solid and 140 for hp) as well as the NOE 134 BBT and the Arsenal 115 FNGC I want to see how tight I can get it.
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Re: 500 yards with airguns
« Reply #2 on: July 15, 2019, 07:31:35 AM »


From Sunday’s Airgun shoot. I shot very few images do to delirium from the heat and that big ball of fire in the sky. 8)
 

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Re: 500 yards with airguns
« Reply #3 on: July 15, 2019, 07:40:31 AM »
Kevin,
Thanks again for the invite to shoot at the farm! I had a great time and it good to be able to finally meet up with you and Steve. It took me some time and ammo to get everything dialed in, more time then I expected to anyways. I liked the shorter ranges 25, 50 and 100-yard targets for most of my shooting especially the .177 it was shooting some great groups at 50 yards and by that time the wind had come up pretty good too. I need to work on the longer range stuff to be a better shooter for sure.
Shooting the Prod arrow gun at 30 yards was a hoot ;D I'll need to work on getting red dot scope for the next outing!
Shooting a .58 Quackenbush Outlaw Pistol left a crazy smile on my face, wow is all I can say. What a sweet gun.  Next time I'll need to bring some sunblock.. LOL

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Re: 500 yards with airguns
« Reply #4 on: July 15, 2019, 07:46:43 AM »
Good grief, me changing Randy’s name to Larry.  I must have neglected to take my medication.  :o

My humble apologies!
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Re: 500 yards with airguns
« Reply #5 on: July 15, 2019, 07:56:36 AM »
No worries, my Mom & Dad don't call me by my name either, it is always my older brothers names.
I just roll with it and smile.
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Re: 500 yards with airguns
« Reply #6 on: July 15, 2019, 04:32:33 PM »
I'm glad you had fun, Randy. Usually Steve and I are a little more (but not too much) disciplined. I've been a bad influence since he got his .257 Texan. Each time he comes over it's 'let's go another hundred yards'. Why not? Hard to know what you've got until you hit the ceiling (come close to it) range-wise.

With me being new to bullet casting it's added a new element on the shooting performance. With the consistency of 2-3 bullets that the gun LOVES to shoot it's been a natural thing to stretch it out. Most anything you shoot though a Texan is good at 100 but only certain ones make the grade to get past 200 and still group 3". The new hollow point was the best performer at distance and was the only bullet able to group 12" or under at 400 yards. I'm curious how it will do between a 100and 200 yards? Guess I'll have to find out!

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Re: 500 yards with airguns
« Reply #7 on: October 06, 2019, 05:36:03 AM »
  Just wondering if any of you guys ever thought about trying a Vernier sight from a black powder cartridge long range rifle on your airgun for long range? It would give you ALOT of elevation adjustment and windage too. I used to shoot BPCR competition with a 45/70 Shiloh Sharps and it fired a 520 gr. bullet at 1140fps. At 1000 yds. it had like a 62 ft. trajectory. We could easily see and hit a 30" steel disc after a few sighters. This was at Ridgeway Pa. in the 1990s. I remember other guys practicing with their .308 rifles practicing next to us not having enough adjustment on their scoped rifles to hit the 1000 yd. targets. They usually only shot to 500 yds. I just think it would be interesting to try a Vernier sight on an airgun for long range although good sights are pretty pricey at about $500. just for the rear sight. Bill 
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Re: 500 yards with airguns
« Reply #8 on: October 06, 2019, 06:15:08 AM »
In all honesty 500 yards with my airgun is a novelty. However it was fun to see just how far one could hit a target consistently. Regarding the Vernier sight, there's a contraption called a 'Cold-Shot' scope base that works well to achieve long range with either center fire or air. It adjusts in MOA and raises/lowers/tilts the scope. Price range is equal in the $500 range. I considered it, but like I said the extreme range stuff is kind of a novelty; I couldn't achieve any real accuracy other than hitting a big piece of steel.

I haven't done any big bore shooting (other than few one-off shots around the homestead) since then. I received my JSAR Raptor .22 a little over a month ago and I've been shooting small bore more often.
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Re: 500 yards with airguns
« Reply #9 on: October 06, 2019, 08:45:43 AM »
   I would like to try some long range shooting with an airgun but my vision is starting to get pretty bad. Not sure that I could see the targets at any decent distances any more even with a scope. I wish the technology we have now for airguns was avallible 15 or 20 yrs. ago. Competing at long range with 150 year old technology was really exciting and satisfying. I think long range competition with airguns would equally exciting.
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Re: 500 yards with airguns
« Reply #10 on: October 06, 2019, 10:18:24 AM »
As far as vision goes, I'm wondering if the high-end optics available now would keep you in the game? I never spent much on scopes in the past on center fire hunting guns but I sure have on airgun scopes. Not sure if you have or have used a scope like a Hawke Sidewinder or similar class/or better optic. It was just a thought.
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