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Texan .257 Breakin at Kevins
« on: January 20, 2019, 07:10:17 PM »
Even though the forecast was rain, Kevin and I decided we needed to get together and shoot our Texans.

I hit the road a little before eight am, and found traffic light. Rained hard at times on the way, but it lightened up as I pulled up to Kevin’s, feeling excited.

We chatted as I started pulling stuff out the truck. We set up the canopy first, then we both set out all the other essentials such as tanks, Born Wild Chairs, ammo, bucket of assorted bits and pieces, etc.

Kevin has already pushed his wheelbarrow down the shooting lane, painting steel, etc. it’s hard work! Thank you Kevin!

There were targets at 25, 50, 75, 100, 125, 150, 175 and 200 yards. Steel plates, spinners of varying sizes and even paper targets gave us plenty to shoot at, and presented us with challenges. I also brought a board with holes drilled to accept pieces of sidewalk chalk.  So much fun!

After endless fiddling I got set up with the new Texan .257 strapped into the Born Wild Shooting Chair that Kevin produces.  Set up the Chrony so I’d have an idea of how fast those 70 grain 257420 Arsenal Bullets were flying. I left all settings the previous owner had as I received the rifle. I did clean the barrel before today. I used the FFP 4-16 BSA scope I have after robbing it from my Marauder. I think it was a good choice.

Decided to find paper at 50 yards, and found it fairly quickly.  Accuracy was not astounding at 50 yards, but since I’d never shot the rifle until then, I was a bit too tight and fidgety. I blame it all on me.   Next I pointed to 100 yards and using the Strelock  suggestion, held over two dots.  That was half a dot too much, but I corrected and then moved on to 125, 150, 175 and finally 200 yards. I hit each target on my first pass. I’ve not experienced that before with any of my airguns. Wow. Kevin seemed excited by this game changer, and I had to pinch myself.

And so it went until I’d burned through about 74 bullets. Seemed like I was losing accuracy and decided it was time to clean the barrel. Pushed a patch through and holy cow was the barrel filthy. Worked on brushing and swabbing until I was happy. Pointed back at 50 yards and first shot was rather off, but followed up with 9 more shots that were tight.

Decided that I wanted to sight in at 100 yards and a couple shots later I was making a super tight (for me group) of about 1 3/4 inches. Kevin has a go and made a 1 1/2” group!

Amazing.

Super fun day, and can’t wait for the next fun shoot.  Oh, and I didn’t take out the Sumatra or .58 DAQ I had with me.

Got home unloaded truck and decide to see how air was in my tank and was blown away by the 4200psi remaining. If I had used any of the DAQs that tank would have ended up at 2000-2500 psi.  Wow.

Awesome day!


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Re: Texan .257 Breakin at Kevins
« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2019, 07:19:30 PM »

Kevin Shoots the .257 AirForce Texan.  100 yard group!

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Re: Texan .257 Breakin at Kevins
« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2019, 07:57:38 PM »
I didn’t take notes but a string of ten shots on a fill ranged from a high of 1049fps to 949 FPS if I remember correctly.

So at the settings the rifle came with, using a 3k fill, 70 grain bullets, best shot was 171FPE. This thing throws them down range!

Next time I will keep better notes.
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Re: Texan .257 Breakin at Kevins
« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2019, 08:15:05 PM »
That's an awesome gun. It's more accurate than the .308...I hate admitting that. I've heard it said and I have to say it's true. I think it's notable that you were shooting on lower-than-full power settings with both air pressure and power wheel setting. I might find more accuracy if I started turning down the 2950 psi reg setting and full power. Steve's Texan showed me that regardless of his being a .257 and mine a .308, that better accuracy is possible. The .257 was comparable or better than the .308 at 200 yards too. Today was windy and the slugs punched right through. Pellets from the .25 Streamline did not. I had a windage adjustment of 1" at 50 yards and 2.5" at 100 yards.

I shot a couple of the BBT boattails that I received from AG member. They shot better than I had expected. I only took about five shots with them to get a feel. Accuracy was good, but with the bad weather and all I just didn't want to pull out the chrony, notebook, etc.  These slugs need a day with good weather/no wind to really test well. What I noticed was that they didn't really deviate much on the windage like other 'round nose' shaped bullets I've used. Excited to see the results.

On the bullet mold front I will be receiving an Arsenal 122 gr. Flat nose 5 cavity in the next week or so. Ricky, I'll send you a batch when I pour them.

I had a great bonehead moment today. When putting up a 100 yard paper target and in a moment of obliviousness I stapled my hand. I could go into great detail of the process, but the end result is the same. My finger is the size of a sausage and turning all kinds of colors. Just typing this is a real treat. One notable thing I realized is that I am a left handed nose picker. My main tool is now on the fritz (hurts too bad to twist and get leverage, not to mention it's double my nostril size) and I'm having to go goofy-style right handed. Feels weird and I can't get the angles.

 
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Re: Texan .257 Breakin at Kevins
« Reply #4 on: January 20, 2019, 08:21:34 PM »
Can’t stop laughing. Hahahaha.
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Re: Texan .257 Breakin at Kevins
« Reply #5 on: January 21, 2019, 03:40:30 AM »
Now you know why I use stick on, shoot-&-see targets!
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Re: Texan .257 Breakin at Kevins
« Reply #6 on: January 21, 2019, 06:17:06 AM »
It was a stick on shoot & see...that's what got me into trouble. I was sticking it to a 12x12 pc. of thin card board since my target stands were all wet. The edges wanted to curl up on the target so held the piece of cardboard and used my hand as a backstop and stapled the edges while holding it. The rest is self explanatory.
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Re: Texan .257 Breakin at Kevins
« Reply #7 on: January 21, 2019, 07:49:56 AM »
Kevin, there’s nothing much better than a fart joke or a booger joke, but when you combine injury and nose picking you gave fart jokes a run for the money.  I just about fell out of my chair laughing. 

I sure wish I’d worn ear plugs yesterday. My tinnitus was a bit more vocal in my ears last night. Those Texans bark.  On down the road I may just have to add on a muffler. Neal Clague has a shroud that makes the rifle crazy long, but his LDC’s are quiet, and the two I have do not affect ppoint of aim. He gets $175 + 25 shipping. Me thinks Airforce is going to charge a bit more and drag their feet getting them to market. Neal’s stuff is no nonsense that just plain works.

It was satisfying taking a used rifle out of the box, filling it with air and having it perform from the get go. And after all that shooting, to still have usable air in the tank has me tickled pink. I’m thinking that the small Ninja Tank might suffice for a day of shooting the Texan leaving the big tank to feed the Air Hungry DAQs. Maybe. I think a second tank or portable compressor or second tank with air booster will help let me shoot what I want as long as I want.

The Ninja has been and continues to be a pain though. The burst discs previous failures keep me from filling to 4500 psi and the tank appears to have a slow leak. Gotta take the valve apart again and put in new o-rings.

Whoops gotta go to work!

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Re: Texan .257 Breakin at Kevins
« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2019, 09:13:57 AM »
Protect it, or lose it!
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Re: Texan .257 Breakin at Kevins
« Reply #9 on: January 21, 2019, 09:14:34 AM »
I actually put in foam ear plugs after a bit. Better late than never.

One surprise for me yesterday was the performance of 171 gr. flat nose slugs. The heaviest slug I've tried in a year has been the 154 gr. spire point. As I've stated before, flat nose seems to work great through my gun and the 171's were no exception. I had a three shoot group of about 1" at 100. Of course when I tried the NUAH I had a flier, but that's par for the course.

The drawback with the 171's is the trajectory. Essentially it's a 100 yard gun for hunting and yardages have to be precise. However, it's encouraging to see the results and I'm much more open to a mid range flat nose between 135 and 155 gr. for big game hunting purposes if it ever becomes legal. It's a balance between FPE and accuracy.
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Re: Texan .257 Breakin at Kevins
« Reply #10 on: January 22, 2019, 05:50:04 PM »
I had a hunch that you would fall in love with that 257 Steve.  A good bell curve can only be achieved at 1/4 to 1/3 power wheel setting.   Still very powerful even down there.   Give Matt a call at R&L airguns if you want more scoop on the 257.  He has had some great experience with them.
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Re: Texan .257 Breakin at Kevins
« Reply #11 on: January 22, 2019, 08:36:13 PM »
I had a hunch that you would fall in love with that 257 Steve.  A good bell curve can only be achieved at 1/4 to 1/3 power wheel setting.   Still very powerful even down there.   Give Matt a call at R&L airguns if you want more scoop on the 257.  He has had some great experience with them.

I had the power wheel set to the place where you’d marked with paint. Somewhere along the line that setting changed to weaker by two dots. I put it back to the paint dot.m shot it for a bit, then turned up one dot. I was out of the belll curve by then.

I will learn from the 257420 bullets and only when I can put a bullet where I aim consistency will I make changes. As it is currently set both Kevin and I proved the accuracy of this rifle. I know it’s better than me, but I’ll keep at it.

What blew me away is it’ll get a good ten shots and make decent groups. Next shoot I’ll spend more time with the chrony and take notes.  Sunday, I just wanted to shoot! I whacked the two hundred yard steel as often as I wanted. So much fun!

I’m now convinced I can get the DAQ .458 to whack the steel at 100-200yards at will too. I have a better understanding of these beasts now.
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Re: Texan .257 Breakin at Kevins
« Reply #12 on: January 22, 2019, 08:38:15 PM »
Oh and thanks for the suggestion of calling Matt at R&L.
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