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Long range scope mounts and more
« on: June 16, 2019, 08:43:06 AM »
Long range scopes and mounts and more!  Good grief. $1500 scopes $700 scope mounts, crrrrrazy!

Very informative article for powder burners that translates to airguns too.

https://precisionrifleblog.com/2018/08/05/extreme-long-range-tips-optics-mounts/


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Re: Long range scope mounts and more
« Reply #1 on: June 16, 2019, 09:41:06 AM »
I don't have a decent photo showing ALL of the rifles, but what you see below should be good enough.

I could send you an email with all of the particulars, is you just have to have them. It is a 22-250AI, with a 31.5 inch 1:12, barrel. The scope is a 6.5X20X40 Leupold, boosted to 32X. I don't remember the tilt, but as I recall it was 200 MOI. Shooting a 63 grain, Nosler BTs, at 4,150 FPS, it would hold better than one inch groups at 300 yards if the wind wasn't bowing. This is the gun I used to kill a prairie dog at 1,710 yards. And yes, I have proof! Total cost? Almost $5,000 in 1995 monies!

NO matter what you shoot, if it is designed to fire a long way off, you will indeed spend a lot of cash!
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Re: Long range scope mounts and more
« Reply #2 on: June 16, 2019, 09:48:55 AM »
Good gravy! Look at that barrel!
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Re: Long range scope mounts and more
« Reply #3 on: June 16, 2019, 02:10:02 PM »
Yes, and the gun weighed 28 pounds! The stock was weighted, and the butt and forearm were made plane-parallel. This allowed the gun to slide atop the Teflon rails of the mounts (not shown in photo).

Over my lifetime, I have been VERY lucky. My father had Wally Smith, one of the premier gunsmiths in Kansas City, make me my first varminter. It too was a 22-250, which was, at the time, a wildcat. It was build on an FN action, and that action saw 5 different barrels before I purchased a better action.

My other long-distance gun was a 338-378 Weatherby. Nowadays, that caliber too is no longer a wildcat. Imagine a 200 grain slug, traveling a just over 3,900 FPS, or about 6,800 FPE! As I got older, recoil concussion, became a really big issue! The only good thing about that deal, I sold the gun for almost twice what it cost to build.
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Re: Long range scope mounts and more
« Reply #4 on: June 16, 2019, 08:09:41 PM »
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Re: Long range scope mounts and more
« Reply #5 on: June 16, 2019, 09:21:40 PM »
https://heritage-arms.com/product-category/gun-parts/cold-shot-llc-adjustable-scope-bases/

These bases get it done when normal scope mounts/adjustments max out. For myself, I don't have the talent or the custom equipment to put it to good use. I don't want to pay $500.00 to lob in slugs and hit a target with dumb luck. I know that others use these bases and have great results at extreme ranges, but like I said I don't have that kind of ability.

I will say this though. Now that I know I can hit a  target consistently at 400 yards I'm going to keep working on it and see if I can get some decent groups. From a bench shooting standpoint 200 yards has become a little boring and now that I have two excellent bullets to use I will start to fine tune my long range stuff with power, air pressure, and barrel 'attachments' (see other post)  Who knows, maybe down the road I might consider a Cold Shot base but I think some night vision equipment to use for ratting at the dairy is next on the list. My .22 JSAR Raptor should be in my hands in the next month and I would very much like to use the rail/accessories for pesting.
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Re: Long range scope mounts and more
« Reply #6 on: June 17, 2019, 03:23:54 AM »
Well sir, as I alluded to, start shooting a .177 at 100 yards. I can hit a pop can with my 397 at that distance, but it takes about 10 tries before I actually hit it. I can hit one 9 out of 10 with my .25 Cobra. It is all a matter of how much lead you can afford to sling, and with what!
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Re: Long range scope mounts and more
« Reply #7 on: June 17, 2019, 06:15:30 AM »
I shoot prairie dogs in Rockies of Wyoming every year.
The wind blows as we all know.
I used the belong to the Varmint Hunters Association (VHA).
They published a magazine and in it published stories (emphasis on story) about how far the members could hit a prairie dog.
One STORY had a fellow saying he could hit a prairie dog at 2700 yards in, wait for it, Nevada.
My son has a theory about these long distance claims.
The shooters are driving down a dirt road and discover a well inhabited dog town.
They place an orange traffic cone in he middle of the town.
Then they retreat to a high point, let’s say, 1000 yards away and start lobbing their projectiles into the sky aiming at the orange traffic cone.
After about thirty minutes they drive down and see if any dogs were effected.
Regardless of the range what is the point?
Are you all closet Marine Snipers?
Not bloody likely.
I was reading somewhere on another forum where someone claimed to shoot his .257 air rifle proficiently at 1000 yards. He had a self-recorded video to prove it.
I supposed he used solid bullets, not diablo air pellets.
But I am sure he used about 500 shots to get close...
Back to the VHA..Every year they have a contest shooting at 600 yards in Pierre, SD.
What is funny, the alleged long range prairie dog slayers never compete there..
Funny?
No, sad really!
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Re: Long range scope mounts and more
« Reply #8 on: June 17, 2019, 06:53:55 AM »
This optics and mount’s did win “le mile” 2019.
Last year the shooter used a Kahls 10-50-56
This year he did lone this set.
And no.
He did not use the air-rifle on witch it is place on this pic.
@the end you will have an advantage with a better view.
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Re: Long range scope mounts and more
« Reply #9 on: June 17, 2019, 08:22:09 AM »
It’s the challenge and it’s the fun.

Yeah it took me more than a few shots to hit that spray paint can at 400 yards, but both Kevin and I made lead dance around that can ever so close over and over again. We fought the wind from our up high vantage point and from the down low target. I think we had wind blowing two directions, counter from high to low. And you know there was a bit of dumb luck. But, we had so much fun!

Another bit of fun was to send tiny little bullets flying at super sonic speeds for that awesome crrrrrack! I found two .30 pellets in a can of miscellaneous ammo that came with the Citrus and passed them over to Kevin. He fired the first one off and oh the crrrrrrack!!!! I love it.

Shooting our airguns at really crazy distances, making awesome sounds makes me feel like a kid.

Up next: 2 liter soda bottles with the kaboom blast caps!

Oh the joy!
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Re: Long range scope mounts and more
« Reply #10 on: June 17, 2019, 01:18:25 PM »
All of my .22lr, .223, .22-250, .30-06, 9mm, .357,.44, 12 gauge, .54 Hawken  exceed speed of sound too.
The Diana52 will with <7.0 grain pellets will too...at sea level and higher..
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Re: Long range scope mounts and more
« Reply #11 on: June 17, 2019, 04:52:16 PM »
All of my .22lr, .223, .22-250, .30-06, 9mm, .357,.44, 12 gauge, .54 Hawken  exceed speed of sound too.
The Diana52 will with <7.0 grain pellets will too...at sea level and higher..

Do you giggle your fanny perpendicular off when you break the speed of sound with your airguns? If not then perhaps you need to relax that part of your lizard brain and have fun!  8)
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Re: Long range scope mounts and more
« Reply #12 on: June 17, 2019, 08:28:19 PM »
Chamber a slug then open bolt and add a couple drops of light oil (diesel) close bolt and see if you can go supersonic with that.
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Re: Long range scope mounts and more
« Reply #13 on: June 18, 2019, 09:40:29 AM »
FX has the No Limit rings that give you a little more range at lot less cost.

https://www.airgundepot.com/fx-airguns-no-limit-scope-mount-30-mm-dovetail.html
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« Reply #14 on: June 18, 2019, 01:46:10 PM »
Agreed. I actually have those on my FX Streamline (came with it from Utah Airguns)  I was considering putting them on the Texan as they really serve no purpose on the .25 cal pellet shooter. Thank you for mentioning that; Steveoh and I were speaking about that very same thing and I forgot to bring it up in this thread.
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