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Re: Just got kicked off another site!!!
« Reply #30 on: January 21, 2016, 11:29:04 AM »
Just PART of the reason we don't allow discussion of certain words. Do not want to draw unwanted attention to cause issues.

https://www.atf.gov/firearms/qa/are-paintball-andor-airgun-sound-suppressers-nfa-firearms

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Re: Just got kicked off another site!!!
« Reply #31 on: January 21, 2016, 11:32:32 AM »
makes sense,,,,,but the talk around crap don't work either you know that
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Re: Just got kicked off another site!!!
« Reply #32 on: January 21, 2016, 11:44:39 AM »
Ok ATF is holding our feet to the fire.

Perhaps it's time to openly discuss this like adults, and use the power of all the airgun forums to get together and petition our CongressCritters to change the law. There are countries with way tougher gun and airgun control laws that allow for the use of a Suppressor, Silencer, Muffler, Pillow, Potato, oil filter, LDC, Muzzle Brake, etc to quiet down both airguns and firearms.

We can do so legally in the US, as long as we pay a fee. In my mind that is taxation without representation. The law is there just to collect money. Period.

It's silly to be paranoid, and hide behind attempted obfuscating terminology such as Lead Dust Collector.

All in favor of creating a petition and sending to all airgun forums to collaborate on, say Aye!
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Re: Just got kicked off another site!!!
« Reply #33 on: January 21, 2016, 11:47:29 AM »
There are many ways to approach a subject and discuss it. Like there are right ways and wrong ways to inform folks of anything. I guess we can agree to disagree but I believe keyword searches are in place and if a keyword pings on someone's desktop, then the looking deeper is sure to follow. There are not enough personnel to actively monitor every post of every forum. But you can bet they are looking.
We have been very successful so far in our approach. I see no reason to change what works.

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Re: Just got kicked off another site!!!
« Reply #34 on: January 21, 2016, 11:50:13 AM »
I remember someone once gave a great analogy....something about poking a bear with a stick.
Go ahead.
If we CAN in some way ALL come together with a united voice, maybe just maybe.
Good luck with that too.
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Re: Just got kicked off another site!!!
« Reply #35 on: January 21, 2016, 11:52:28 AM »
We actually have members from HLS, more than one.  David

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« Reply #36 on: January 21, 2016, 11:59:38 AM »
Not sure poking the bear is a good idea either...But on the other hand I dislike big brother telling me what to do when we the people should be telling our Government what to do. Kind of on the fence myself

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Re: Just got kicked off another site!!!
« Reply #37 on: January 21, 2016, 12:01:04 PM »
GTA has over 15,000 members listed. Sure seems like that's the beginning of a movement.


I remember someone once gave a great analogy....something about poking a bear with a stick.
Go ahead.
If we CAN in some way ALL come together with a united voice, maybe just maybe.
Good luck with that too.
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Re: Just got kicked off another site!!!
« Reply #38 on: January 21, 2016, 12:02:48 PM »
There are many ways to approach a subject and discuss it. Like there are right ways and wrong ways to inform folks of anything. I guess we can agree to disagree but I believe keyword searches are in place and if a keyword pings on someone's desktop, then the looking deeper is sure to follow. There are not enough personnel to actively monitor every post of every forum. But you can bet they are looking.
We have been very successful so far in our approach. I see no reason to change what works.

Do you really believe that the simple talk around terms are not already in their search strings??
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Re: Just got kicked off another site!!!
« Reply #39 on: January 21, 2016, 12:09:20 PM »
Almost 16,000 and an INTERNATIONAL Airgun Forum. And just one of many.
The purpose and vision of GTA is an information site, not a political vanguard. I really don't want to be responsible for destroying a good place.
There ARE organizations set up just for the fight. NRA ILA for one. THERE we have a voice, one that gets attention. 
Join the fight where it can make a difference. All we would succeed in doing is getting our forum scrutinized or shut down.

Tom, like I said. We've been at this successfully since 2005. The way we run it works for the purpose it was set up for. We will continue to be the best possible.

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Re: Just got kicked off another site!!!
« Reply #40 on: January 21, 2016, 12:20:56 PM »


it's worked till now ....but collectively we ain't fooling anybody with talk arounds ....the whole house of cards can crash down via just one ATF career building GS type looking to make a name

The industry side of the hobby needs to lobby....in our simulated Democracy Money Talks

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Re: Just got kicked off another site!!!
« Reply #41 on: January 21, 2016, 12:29:18 PM »
 This is a touchy subject for sure and it can either lead to a government change or no more GTA and GUILD so like I said not sure how to approach this but Dez has a good point, There are organizations that have a much bigger voice like the NRA

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Re: Just got kicked off another site!!!
« Reply #42 on: January 21, 2016, 12:43:34 PM »

it's worked till now ....but collectively we ain't fooling anybody with talk arounds ....the whole house of cards can crash down via just one ATF career building GS type looking to make a name

The industry side of the hobby need to lobby....in our simulated Democracy Money Talks

That is absolutely true. It COULD happen at any time...over the last ten years or sometime within the next 10. And if cornered, we WILL come out fighting tooth and nail. But until that time, we will press onward as we always have. And take our fight where it can actually make a difference.

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Re: Just got kicked off another site!!!
« Reply #43 on: January 21, 2016, 01:20:51 PM »
I certainly find it refreshing to talk about it.
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Re: Just got kicked off another site!!!
« Reply #44 on: January 21, 2016, 05:32:46 PM »
The poll question is all wrong.  A good starting point is to know the law.  Removable has nothing to do with the legality although permanant makes intent and modification more difficult.

A good starting point would be to support the hearing protection act.   https://www.nraila.org/articles/20151022/nra-backs-hearing-protection-act