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interesting target - backstop solutions
« on: December 31, 2019, 09:43:20 AM »
Wow, look at these $$$ interesting target / backstop solutions. I came across one trailer model on eBay.

These things are heavy!

https://www.thebulletbunker.com/products/

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Sniper III Elite

Redesigned with a hinged collar for easier front panel replacement & ballistic medium cleaning, the Sniper III Elite is the ultimate mobile, adjustable, Bullet Bunker! With a 15”W X 19”H front face, the Sniper II was designed for Military and Police sniper units. Developed to stop the whole family of .308 parent case cartridges plus the .300 Win. Mag, the Sniper II can be adjusted to sit on the ground or be cranked up to 6’3” tall. It’s large solid rubber tires are covered with steel runners, making it easy to move indoors and out, even with one person. There are four retractable legs that are deployed to give The Sniper II its stability — and for changing target situations, it can’t be beat! Can be used for indoor or outdoor ranges.

Dimensions: 32”D X 32W″ X 75″H
Weight: 475 lbs.


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Re: interesting target - backstop solutions
« Reply #1 on: December 31, 2019, 11:22:49 AM »
Big, heavy, and especially pricey. But that being said, it fills a niche for someone. As a vendor who builds a high-end, custom built, and expensive shooting tool I can appreciate the craftsmanship and the quality. Nobody really NEEDS this, but it's there and available if you WANT it. Not only does it make a range safer from projectiles being thrown about, but it keeps the area and environment clean of lead shrapnel. Cool concept.

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Re: interesting target - backstop solutions
« Reply #2 on: December 31, 2019, 12:12:17 PM »
Beats killing your big beautiful cedar or pine tree out back.  and purty nice.
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Re: interesting target - backstop solutions
« Reply #3 on: January 08, 2020, 04:23:40 AM »
Interesting for sure. I use old, stripped down stainless steel under counter coolers. I have 7 of them so far. 20 meters/mobile, 30, 40, 50, 60 & 70 meters. I rip the doors off and move the hinges to the top horizontally and run a threaded rod across them to hang my target faces, 1/2” or 3/4” plywood with hooks on top. They’re set out like the “Freedom” model. They don’t weigh nearly the 700+ pounds though! (nor, the stopping power!) I’ll post some pics when I can.
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Re: interesting target - backstop solutions
« Reply #4 on: January 17, 2020, 03:50:01 PM »
Lumber yards carry rubber mulch for use on children's playgrounds.  I built a wood box 10" deep and filled
it with playground rubber mulch.  My box is long enough to hold 4 each 8" x 10"  targets posted side by side.
Cardboard on the front holds the mulch in place and provide a place to post targets.  When cardboard must
be replaced I turn the box on its back.  This Mulch box works well for my 10 meter basement pellet gun range.
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Re: interesting target - backstop solutions
« Reply #5 on: January 17, 2020, 05:06:27 PM »
I've always wondered about using kapok. It's similar to cotton, in that it surrounds the seeds of the ceiba tree. It is a bit courser and denser than raw cotton (it is also a better insulator!). Raw kapok is about $6 a pound, but you can buy quilt batting which is both cotton and kapok for a lot less. In fact, the backstop I made for my 397 used 75/25% cotton/kapok quilt batting, and lasted for about 500 rounds. It was quiet, except when the pellet hit the target's cardboard backing. I don't know what you can do about that?

Regular old dirt works well to, but I don't have enough space to build a berm large enough for what I need.

I've been thinking about contacting these folks (http://cumberlandrubber.com/?gclid=Cj0KCQiA04XxBRD5ARIsAGFygj_ZK6wJ5zh88kcpgFvR4VRBXf6YMNPINGNfxBw_o0qYwBXmCgCcHJgaAuB4EALw_wcB) as they seem to know what is best.

In short, there has to be a better solution!


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Re: interesting target - backstop solutions
« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2020, 07:13:35 AM »
My first pellet trap was a wood box about 3-1/2" deep filled with Duct Seal a non-Harding product from Gardner Bender.
Duct Seal has been called ballistic putty, will stop pellets, but if several high energy shots are fired at the same point,
a hole will form allowing additional pellets to penetrate the trap.  Happened shooting my Airforce .22.  Maintenance of
the Duct Seal is required; removal of pellets, pellets form lead clumps, and filling in holes before the back is penetrated. 

Rubber mulch filled trap is a better solution.  The cardboard I use to hold mulch requires replacement, would like to use
something besides cardboard, any ideas? 

A group of us airgun shooters gather weekly shooting into traps filled with playground rubber mulch.  After a year pellet lead
was recovered yielding over 80 pounds of lead!
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Re: interesting target - backstop solutions
« Reply #7 on: January 18, 2020, 07:20:05 AM »
I use a 10 gallon tote to hold my mulch I can put a large 12" target on it. I cut a hole in the lid and back it with cardboard under the lid, then another sheet of cardboard to hold the target.

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Re: interesting target - backstop solutions
« Reply #8 on: January 18, 2020, 08:45:14 AM »
I have three duct seal pellet traps. They are awesome for even the Sumatra fling JSB Heavies, as long as you have three layers of duct seal. The stuff gets hard in the winter and soft in the summer and boy do those traps increasingly get heavy. And yup if you shoot in the same spot you will end up getting a perfect tunnel that eventually will pass all the way through. Big bores will just break the whole thing. Ask me how I know.

I built a box completely framed in 2x wood, and it’s double walled, and filled with rubber mulch. It weighs way too much, but it sits at the top of the hill and currently is the rat’s favorite peanut butter station. I probably need a rat doc come by and check their obesity index as these rats are fat.

My favorite pellet and bullet trap these days is a five gallon Home Depot bucket filled with Lowe’s Rubber mulch, fitted with the normal snap on lid. I pack the mulch tight. It’s easy to pick up and move, cheap to buy, and when the lid wears out just get a new one.

The bucket will not handle the .458 or .58 DAQs for long but if you shoot straight on and shake the mulch back into shape every 5-10 shots you’ll get rid of the tunnel and the bucket will last longer. I use stick on and staple reinforced orange targets mounted to the lid. Gotta be color coordinated dontcha know.

Oh I tried melted candle wax filled traps that worked ok for weak airguns, but were completely destroyed by the big bores. Fun though.

I like to retrieve pellets and bullets and melt them down. The duct seal is miserable for retrieving lead. The mulch is awesome as you can add bits of mulch from your trap to another container filled with water, and find the rubber mulch floats and the lead sinks. Easy peasy to separate!

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