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General Category => General Airgun Forum Discussion => Topic started by: Alan on May 19, 2020, 05:25:54 AM

Title: Devil’s Advocate, anew.
Post by: Alan on May 19, 2020, 05:25:54 AM
I love playing the devils advocate, because some things just can’t be explained.

Camo this and that! I can understand why someone would want to color (?) everything in camo, if that is, you’re acting as a sniper against an enemy of the state. But do you really think it helps the looks? Or perhaps you’re trying to impress your friends? Oh, I got it! It reduces the chance of a sun glint off parts of the weapon. But isn’t that what a matte finish is supposed to do? And what are you going to do to stop a glint off the optics glass, sand it?

And speaking of camo. Every state I know of (during rifle season), requires a certain amount of orange outerwear. This, as an effort, to keep hunters from being shot by other hunters. That’s a good thing, but if camo really worked as well as we all think it does, we wouldn’t need any orange outerwear!

What the heck is backyard friendly? Muzzle report? Accuracy? Caliber? Suppressor? Some combination of noise-quieting materials to act as a backstop? I’m not sure, but one thing is certain; In most municipalities, it is illegal to shoot an airgun (out of doors) within city limits. Unfortunately we’re all guilty of this violation!

What’s with all of the CO2 powered, handgun replicas all about? The ad hype says they handle, feel, and shoot like the real thing. Well, they don’t, and what’s more, they’re no more accurate than a spitball!

And here’s another question. Do we really need a fully-automatic airgun? The old adage is true; Just because you can, doesn’t mean you should!

Beauty is what beauty does, but form always follows function! In other words, beauty may be functional, but is it the correct form for the your function? I just wonder how many triple-laminated, colorfully finished, insanely-expensive, and shapely stocked airguns, actually go on rugged hunting trips?

And not lastly…

More and more states are requiring non-lead projectiles, as one way to lower the amount of lead in our ecosystem. Understandably, this is a worthy cause for most folks. Unfortunately, once lead gets into the ecosystem, it is very difficult to remove. This fact raises serious questions. For a little over 50 years, tetraethyl of led (TEL) was used in gasoline as both a lubricant, and as an octane enhancer. In round numbers, for every 500 gallons of gasoline used, one pound of lead (including its oxides) was deposited into our ecosystem. Again in round numbers, the amount of TEL gasoline used in the US alone (in those ≈50 years) was 500 billion gallons! That’s 1 billion pounds of lead deposited into our ecosystem! Are we so naive to think that banning lead projectiles will make a significant difference in the ecosystem’s lead level?
Title: Re: Devil’s Advocate, anew.
Post by: Steelhead on May 19, 2020, 05:45:56 AM
Regarding lead...as I've said before it's not 'random lead' (in California's case) polluting the ecosystem, it's the critically endangered birds of prey that are eating carcasses with lead in them and also waterfowl consuming it when feeding. Condors, eagles, etc. are prone to lead poisoning after consuming animals or gut piles with lead projectiles. Yes, the impact is very small percentage-wise but that's the real reason for the lead ban. Steel shotgun shot has been required for years because of waterfowl consuming huge amounts of lead scattered over their feeding grounds in the refuges and rice fields. I'm not here to argue or debate the validity of the actual law, but the I want to once again clarify the 'why'. It's about the animals consuming lead indirectly.
Title: Re: Devil’s Advocate, anew.
Post by: Alan on May 19, 2020, 08:04:34 AM
I agree, but don't we generally eat larger animals like turkeys and deer? I don't think either specie are aquatic.
Title: Re: Devil’s Advocate, anew.
Post by: bnowlin on May 19, 2020, 10:20:27 AM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't lead come from the eco-system.  What about Leadville Co. for one?
Bobn
Title: Re: Devil’s Advocate, anew.
Post by: PaAirgunner on May 19, 2020, 01:04:35 PM
I love playing the devils advocate, because some things just can’t be explained.

Camo this and that! I can understand why someone would want to color (?) everything in camo, if that is, you’re acting as a sniper against an enemy of the state. But do you really think it helps the looks? Or perhaps you’re trying to impress your friends? Oh, I got it! It reduces the chance of a sun glint off parts of the weapon. But isn’t that what a matte finish is supposed to do? And what are you going to do to stop a glint off the optics glass, sand it?

Honeycomb shade

And speaking of camo. Every state I know of (during rifle season), requires a certain amount of orange outerwear. This, as an effort, to keep hunters from being shot by other hunters. That’s a good thing, but if camo really worked as well as we all think it does, we wouldn’t need any orange outerwear!

It does work and the need for orange is because a bunch of Idiots shoot at the sound. You move and they don't see orange, or a person moving and they are shooting

What the heck is backyard friendly? Muzzle report? Accuracy? Caliber? Suppressor? Some combination of noise-quieting materials to act as a backstop? I’m not sure, but one thing is certain; In most municipalities, it is illegal to shoot an airgun (out of doors) within city limits. Unfortunately we’re all guilty of this violation!

Not me, where I live it's legal to shoot ANYTHING was long as you keep the projectile from leaving your property

What’s with all of the CO2 powered, handgun replicas all about? The ad hype says they handle, feel, and shoot like the real thing. Well, they don’t, and what’s more, they’re no more accurate than a spitball!

And here’s another question. Do we really need a fully-automatic airgun? The old adage is true; Just because you can, doesn’t mean you should!

Beauty is what beauty does, but form always follows function! In other words, beauty may be functional, but is it the correct form for the your function? I just wonder how many triple-laminated, colorfully finished, insanely-expensive, and shapely stocked airguns, actually go on rugged hunting trips?

And not lastly…

More and more states are requiring non-lead projectiles, as one way to lower the amount of lead in our ecosystem. Understandably, this is a worthy cause for most folks. Unfortunately, once lead gets into the ecosystem, it is very difficult to remove. This fact raises serious questions. For a little over 50 years, tetraethyl of led (TEL) was used in gasoline as both a lubricant, and as an octane enhancer. In round numbers, for every 500 gallons of gasoline used, one pound of lead (including its oxides) was deposited into our ecosystem. Again in round numbers, the amount of TEL gasoline used in the US alone (in those ≈50 years) was 500 billion gallons! That’s 1 billion pounds of lead deposited into our ecosystem! Are we so naive to think that banning lead projectiles will make a significant difference in the ecosystem’s lead level?