Author Topic: Marauder issues  (Read 1974 times)

rsterne

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Re: Marauder issues
« Reply #30 on: April 07, 2019, 07:02:05 PM »
Back off the preload on the SSG, or increase the gap slightly.... If the problem goes away that was likely it.... Alternately, increase the preload or reduce the gap.... If you are right at coil bind now, you will not be able to pull the bolt back far enough to cock the gun....

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Re: Marauder issues
« Reply #31 on: April 07, 2019, 07:24:37 PM »
It's real close to not being able to cock. Bob ,bear with me I've read and seen the word pre load so many times but I don't exactly know what it means I've never really seen it really explained so that I could understand it. My dad used to say to me what do I gotta do draw you a freaking picture ? I wanted to say yeah dad you do. I know that on the ssg I have a allen screw that I can turn in and out and that I can ( I think) put a small screw driver thru that allen screw and adjust something else. Maybe I just gave the thing a little too much power with my adjusting but boy it sure is quiet (mouse fart quiet!)
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Re: Marauder issues
« Reply #32 on: April 07, 2019, 08:40:56 PM »
I am not familiar with the design of your particular SSG.... I'm guessing that one adjustment is preload and the other gap.... If you leave the preload the same and increase the gap between the end of the spring guide and the hammer (giving the hammer more free play before it starts to compress the spring when you start to cock the gun), that should eliminate the chance of coil bind....

Somebody else may be able to help, or Jim or Travis could tell you how to adjust it.... Sorry....

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Re: Marauder issues
« Reply #33 on: April 09, 2019, 07:42:17 AM »
I messed around with it some more this morning and what I am seeing is that the sear keeps slipping off of the end of the link. It's like where the two come together is messed up or something altho I can't tell by looking at it. I just wonder if I should just order a new sear and link. I fooled around with it for about an hour and a half this morning trying all different settings with the ssg and it's almost like where the sear and the link meet maybe has gotten worn because now I can't get it to stay cocked. I can cock it but the sear immediately slips off of the link.
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Re: Marauder issues
« Reply #34 on: April 09, 2019, 08:21:03 AM »
It sounds like the end of the sear and/or the intermediate lever are damaged and should be replaced.... As I said previously, if you ever installed the trigger without pulling it back to allow the sear to drop when it hits the hammer, you can damage these parts.... The Gen1 sears would break, but the Gen2 are stronger.... I have never had a problem (because I know now to pull the trigger when installing, after breaking a Gen1 sear), but tightening the mounting screws without pulling the trigger will cause something to bend, distort, break or shear off some metal, which is likely what happened to yours....

When you take it apart, also check for bent or damaged pivot pins, or even the sockets for those pins in the housing and side plate.... When Crosman beefed up the sear, it is likely the failure just moved to the next weakest point....

Bob
« Last Edit: April 09, 2019, 08:23:03 AM by rsterne »
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Re: Marauder issues
« Reply #35 on: April 09, 2019, 09:25:02 AM »
Part # 1764-105
Cheap insurance against accidental misfires if there is a problem with the assembly.
Just my .02
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Re: Marauder issues
« Reply #36 on: April 09, 2019, 09:30:32 AM »
Well that's twice that you have told me that now, maybe I should listen ;)
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Re: Marauder issues
« Reply #37 on: April 09, 2019, 10:17:06 AM »
Well, I did order the trigger assembly but with shipping it was $52.45 a little more then I thought it would be but I do love this gun.
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Re: Marauder issues
« Reply #38 on: April 09, 2019, 10:14:50 PM »
From Crosman? They must have jacked up their price, tho last assy. I ordered was about 3-4 years ago. IIRC
If it's any consolation I ordered a switch today for my big Dayton charger and it was $43 with shipping. I don't love that charger, but it has to work when I need it. ;D
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Re: Marauder issues
« Reply #39 on: April 11, 2019, 09:13:11 AM »
So I'm expecting that new trigger assembly in the next couple of days and after I unscrew the old one is it just a matter of holding the trigger back as I screw the new one back on? Bob, I think that you are absolutely right, I remember when I put a marauder trigger on my 2260 that I broke a sear but that was a gen. 1 trigger. What I'm dealing with now of course is the gen. 2 trigger and yeah I didn't break the sear but like you said they are beefier and I probably just boogered up where the sear meets the link. I will let you know how it all works out  :-[
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Re: Marauder issues
« Reply #40 on: April 11, 2019, 09:23:15 AM »
Make sure the safety is off, and then just pull the trigger and hold it back so the sear can drop down as you install and tighten the screws....

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Re: Marauder issues
« Reply #41 on: April 17, 2019, 05:42:57 AM »
New trigger assembly is in and it's working fine now. When I first put it in nothing changed and I thought oh no maybe there's something wrong with the hammer, but some adjusting on the trigger and it all came together. Before I put it in I looked and I could see where the sear would go and it looked like it would be touching the hammer, so I did pull the trigger as I tightened down the screws but I don't understand what that did for me. It seemed to me whether I pulled the trigger back or not it would be resting at the same place against the hammer.
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Re: Marauder issues
« Reply #42 on: April 17, 2019, 10:51:33 AM »
It seemed to me whether I pulled the trigger back or not it would be resting at the same place against the hammer.

With the safety off and trigger pulled the sear is in the down (released) position instead of resting on top of the trigger link. The sear does not rest against the hammer, it rests under the hammer. When the gun is cocked the sear rises and the front of the hammer rests against the sear. In order for the sear to hold the hammer, it has to rise above the bottom of the hammer.
« Last Edit: April 17, 2019, 10:57:36 AM by caniborrowsomeammo »
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Re: Marauder issues
« Reply #43 on: April 17, 2019, 04:53:02 PM »
So by pulling the trigger while screwing down the assembly you are preventing damage done between the sear and the link not between the sear and the hammer?
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Re: Marauder issues
« Reply #44 on: April 17, 2019, 05:32:00 PM »
That is correct.... You are moving the link out of the way, so that the sear can move down out of the way of the hammer, which during trigger installation is forward, resting against the valve stem.... If you don't hold the trigger back, when you tighten the screws the hammer will force the sear down against the link, bending or breaking something.... In the Gen1 trigger, it would break the sear.... In the Gen2, whatever is the next weakest link is prone to damage from incorrect installation of the trigger group....

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