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jimborg

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Marauder issues
« on: March 31, 2019, 11:08:33 AM »
I have a gen. two .25 marauder and I've got a couple of issues with it. I've had it for about 3 years now and here's what I've done to it. I put in a 3d depinger and a ssg from War. Filling to 3100 psi I get 19 shots averaging 868 and 42.48 fpe. I put in the ssg about 2 years ago and since then my awe sum marauder trigger doesn't work right any more. Let's say I see a squirrel and I draw a bead on him and pull the first stage and then the squirrel runs away, when I release the trigger it doesn't go back. I basically now just have a single stage trigger that if I let off it doesn't go back to where it was. Secondly my gun has fired twice now just by cocking it. I know how to adjust the trigger, I put the same one in my 2260 and it works just like my marauder used to. The gun is super quiet and accurate tho. I think it may all have to do with how I have the ssg adjusted ,I wish there was a video of showing in detail how to install and adjust the war ssg, I've looked and looked but I can't find one. I sure would like to get this sucker fixed cause I just love this gun.


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Re: Marauder issues
« Reply #1 on: March 31, 2019, 12:52:00 PM »
I haven't run into that issue, but I don't have an MRod…. Best to ask Jim at WAR or Travis at JSAR.... It sounds like a problem internal to the trigger, because the sear in an MRod trigger is not supposed to move until it drops out of the way.... I'm guessing some misadjustment or roughness between the trigger and the intermediate lever, but that is just a guess....

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Re: Marauder issues
« Reply #2 on: March 31, 2019, 01:29:23 PM »
It is a trigger issue, and I had the same issue. Here is the answer: https://www.pyramydair.com/blog/2009/06/benjamin-marauder-part-5/

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Re: Marauder issues
« Reply #3 on: March 31, 2019, 02:07:21 PM »
Or you can just order a new trigger assy. from Crosman, I think they are around $25 and $4 shipping.
If you do buy a new assy. buy an extra trigger blade, yours may never break, but they do.

I also suggest a new valve stem for a couple bucks. They get brittle and as your gun is a couple years old ............... ::)
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Re: Marauder issues
« Reply #4 on: March 31, 2019, 02:12:37 PM »
John,
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Re: Marauder issues
« Reply #5 on: March 31, 2019, 02:26:35 PM »
Order a new trigger assembly? It was fine until I started out messin around with the ssg, could this have been caused by my adjustments on the ssg?
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Re: Marauder issues
« Reply #6 on: March 31, 2019, 03:56:50 PM »
Well I just messed around with it for a little and basically I have a single stage hair trigger. Maybe a year ago or so I laid it side by side with my 2260 and tried to copy the settings of it's marauder trigger and I had no luck. Maybe I'm just giving up to quick and have to take a little more time.
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Re: Marauder issues
« Reply #7 on: March 31, 2019, 04:27:16 PM »
My Marauder was tuned by Travis, well actually Michael who was helping Travis for a while. I opted for longer consistent strings and I get those with a fill of 2500 psi. I can usually shoot three or four magazines. Great for back yard rat whacking and it’s soooo quiet. 

Today I was pulling out various airguns and giving them the once over. This one was suddenly not making much power and shots were whack a doodle FPS.

Scratched my head and flipped my chrony over so it was upside down. Nope.
Flipped it back over with a big white card over top instead of diffusers and suddenly FPS is consistent. I had been thinking oh man I need to tear this thing down. Stupid chrony!

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Re: Marauder issues
« Reply #8 on: March 31, 2019, 05:43:06 PM »
I don't get it I don't want to offend you but what's your point?
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Re: Marauder issues
« Reply #9 on: March 31, 2019, 06:23:05 PM »
I don't get it I don't want to offend you but what's your point?

I suppose I meandered as I’m apt to do. But I think I was trying to say that sometimes it ain’t what you think necessarily.  My always consistent Marauder was actually fine though I feared I had a sticking hammer or bad valve stem. Instead it was the chrony.

Sorry to wander off into the weeds. I’ll get a new T-shirt printed up that says, “Village Wanderer”, or “Village DingBat”, or maybe “grins like a dog and wanders aimlessly.”

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Re: Marauder issues
« Reply #10 on: March 31, 2019, 07:23:47 PM »
No worries, I'm just having a real hard time getting some real hard answers. I don't think that there is any thing wrong with my trigger, I really think that it is something involving me and the adjusting of the ssg but Lord I've been wrong before.
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Re: Marauder issues
« Reply #11 on: March 31, 2019, 07:52:21 PM »
Is this what you are looking for?

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Re: Marauder issues
« Reply #12 on: March 31, 2019, 08:03:47 PM »
The only thing the trigger sear does is hold the hammer when in battery. The SSG is just tension on the hammer that the sear holds.
Is there any corrosion in the trigger assy.? Broken spring in the assy. perhaps? Maybe some crud/grit in there?? For the gun to fire without pulling the trigger something may be worn?

Without seeing/ disassembling the gun we're just guessing.
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Re: Marauder issues
« Reply #13 on: April 01, 2019, 04:06:17 AM »
There maybe something else.

First question? Did the SSG kit include a new hammer, and if so, was it steel or composition?? Here is the reason.

For unknown reasons, Travis switched over to a composite hammer, with a brass insert to add weight. Turns out that the composite material has a issue with sticking, and gouging. The latter could cause the trigger issue you're seeing. It is similar to the issue I had. I replaced the hammer with a steel one. Before replacing the hammer, I removed the trigger assembly, and cleaned the inside of the tube with denatured alcohol. I used graphite (you can use Danzac too—tungsten disulfide) to lube the tube and hammer. After reassembly, it has work as it should.

I would suggest looking at the trigger assembly once you remove it. The side plate can be removed, and you can look closely at the sliding pieces with a magnetfyer. As Kevin alluded to, there could be an incidental issue with the sear. I had that specific issue with a Gen 1 Marauder, and as Kevin mentioned, the pieces are cheap to replace—thankfully!
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Re: Marauder issues
« Reply #14 on: April 01, 2019, 05:19:28 AM »
That video is the installation of a tss, I put in a ssg.
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