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Aerolite .457 bullets
« on: November 08, 2019, 07:49:04 AM »
These are made for a standard .452 bore, but the bullets themselves re .451. The plastic skirt is the same diameter. I don't know if these will work in a standard .458 airgun, so I'll ask you what you think?

These are NOT cheap bullets, at $22.50 for 15 units!



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Re: Aerolite .457 bullets
« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2019, 10:07:44 AM »
Its a gamble.
The smallest we shot with a .458 LW barrel.
Was fitted in a Beaumont same barrel as the Texan i think.
Was a 425 grain slug sized in .453.

And this was only a sk6 on hot days.
I don't know why,
On a hot day (38 celsius) it did work very well.
At 20 celsius it did not.
We are talking about 18 degrees and i do not have a suitable explanation.

So back on topic.
Do not think it would work in a .458 barrel.
Just test it.
Sometimes the strangest combinations will work.
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Re: Aerolite .457 bullets
« Reply #2 on: November 08, 2019, 10:28:24 AM »
I would need to know the diameter of the (obviously larger) plastic skirt before commenting....

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Re: Aerolite .457 bullets
« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2019, 12:05:31 PM »
I thought I answered that. It is the same diameter as the bullet—.451.
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Re: Aerolite .457 bullets
« Reply #4 on: November 08, 2019, 03:18:04 PM »
Sure doesn't look like that in the drawing.... That plastic lip is a lot more than 0.0005" thick.... Are you working off information you received, or do you have a sample to measure?....

My "guess" is that the bullet measures 0.451" or 0.452" in diameter.... and is intended to ride the lands of a .457 cal barrel, which is typically 0.450".... Then the plastic base is 0.457-0.460" in diameter, in order to provide a seal in the typical groove diameter of 0.457-0.458"....

but, I've been wrong before....

Are these intended just for airguns?.... Sorry, I see they are intended for Blackpowder use.... There are some barrels that are 0.450-0.452" groove diameter, as pistol bullets are much more common and more suitable in weight for most airgun use.... except a real powerhouse.... Perhaps they are intended for that groove diameter.... not that it will matter much at $1.50 per shot....  ::)

Doing a bit of Googling, I find that quite often blackpowder muzzleloaders use a 45/70 barrel, which is 0.450" land and 0.457-0.458" groove....

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Re: Aerolite .457 bullets
« Reply #5 on: November 09, 2019, 03:22:31 AM »
I spoke with their customer service guy. And I agree that the plastic looks bigger in the photo, but he assured me that the bullet and skirt are both .451.

Yes, they are expensive, but I think I'll order some, and let Steve try it in his .458 Quack. The worst they can do is group like a shotgun!
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Re: Aerolite .457 bullets
« Reply #6 on: November 09, 2019, 08:35:32 AM »
I spoke with their customer service guy. And I agree that the plastic looks bigger in the photo, but he assured me that the bullet and skirt are both .451.

Yes, they are expensive, but I think I'll order some, and let Steve try it in his .458 Quack. The worst they can do is group like a shotgun!

Testing is the only way to find out.
With some luck they act like fin /shuttle stabilized and you have a winner.

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Re: Aerolite .457 bullets
« Reply #7 on: November 10, 2019, 10:49:55 AM »
They are intended for modern (smokeless) muzzle loaders thus the need for an expanding skirt and a jacketed bullet.

But you might find something usefull for an airgun here: https://mmpsabots.com/
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Re: Aerolite .457 bullets
« Reply #8 on: November 11, 2019, 04:21:28 AM »
You are correct. However...

I won't put words in Bob's mouth, but I recall he said something about the accuracy of saboted bullets like the ones listed in the link (smaller bullets with a plastic outer covering, or sabot).

The difference here is, there is really no sabot per se, just a plastic skirt to contain (seal) the gasses.

I did order 15 of them for Steve to try in his 458 quack. Darned expensive, but I'm sure it is enough samples to see how they do. Big bullets are one thing, but placement is everything!!
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« Reply #9 on: November 11, 2019, 08:37:49 AM »
That was mighty swell of you Alan! Thank you!
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Re: Aerolite .457 bullets
« Reply #10 on: November 11, 2019, 05:21:03 PM »
I'll keep an eye on him, Alan, and make sure he doesn't screw it up.  ;)

What he SHOULD do is tether it up to my tank with the Joe B. regulator so there's no deviation in the fill amount. Probably give the best representation of what that ammo (and others) can do out of the quack quack..
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Re: Aerolite .457 bullets
« Reply #11 on: November 13, 2019, 02:45:55 PM »
With such a hard projectile and such low pressures i would promote hBN as a surface coating.
I have a 17HH that does past 3700fps and cleaning is but two patches every 100 shots and nil copper fouling.

One thing overlooked using hBN is that CBS (cold bore shot/first shot) tend to stay within the normal scattering of said rifles group.
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Re: Aerolite .457 bullets
« Reply #12 on: November 13, 2019, 05:53:29 PM »
I'll keep an eye on him, Alan, and make sure he doesn't screw it up.  ;)

What he SHOULD do is tether it up to my tank with the Joe B. regulator so there's no deviation in the fill amount. Probably give the best representation of what that ammo (and others) can do out of the quack quack..

Ummm ok.  :o
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Re: Aerolite .457 bullets
« Reply #13 on: November 14, 2019, 04:36:06 PM »
Just playing with you. That being said, when we make it out for turkeys feel free to tether up the big boy and see if it makes a difference. I for one would be really curious. I'm actually amazed at the groups you get from the .257 Texan untethered, so who knows.
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