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All of these "new" scopes
« on: June 09, 2020, 05:57:16 AM »
It seems to me, that making a wise decision on a new rifle scope is getting even more difficult these days. Let's face a few facts.

The vast majority of these "new lines of rifle scopes" are Chinese made. In too many cases, the scopes are identical, save for different knobs, reticles, and the name on the outside. And the rage seems to be, the rush towards high-power (up to 30 times or more), FFP models. Here is a good example (

As for their glass, some of it is pretty darn good. What varies more than we would like, are the coatings on the glass. And where do those coatings come from, even on really expensive scopes? Of course, China! So think about this. As the power increases, the need for really good glass and coatings, goes up exponentially! In the example given above, the scope costs upwards of $600!

What's a guy to do?

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Re: All of these "new" scopes
« Reply #1 on: June 09, 2020, 11:41:49 AM »
Generally, you get what you pay for.... I'm guessing that a $600 scope from China will at least equal the quality of the same price scope from anywhere else.... Having said that, you sometimes pay for things you don't need (fancy reticles, FFP, large sidewheels, etc.), and so get less quality in the optics.... JMO....

I just bought a Discovery brand 4-16 X 44SF scope for $99, and I am delighted with the quality of the glass....  8)

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Re: All of these "new" scopes
« Reply #2 on: June 09, 2020, 01:30:18 PM »
I have been buying Athlon (Olathe, KS) scopes as of late.  Roots fron staff from Bushnell (OP, KS).  SInce they are relatively new they have been refreshing the product line a lot so they have "older" versions on sale a lot.  I don't buy glass unless is it on a big sale.  I think about the only way to really get a good value.
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Re: All of these "new" scopes
« Reply #3 on: June 09, 2020, 05:21:20 PM »
I was happy with the last BSA Scope I got from China. Well, I was happy until I put on the rifle, and found the reticle wouldn't move when adjusting the turret. Will the Chinese company replace it? hahahahahahahahahahahah.

Kevin's Hawke is simple and just plain works.

I have a couple or five bug busters and other Leapers scopes, and they are mostly ok. One bug buster failed. The second one failed, and Leapers stopped returning my emails asking for an RMA.

I have a SWFA 10x SS that's nice and bright and clear, and has zero bells and whistles. It can be hard to see the reticle under low light though.

I think I want an SWFA 6x SS as I'm starting to not use the zoom on many of my scopes other than to take a look see, then zoom back out.

I'm thinking less is more.
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Re: All of these "new" scopes
« Reply #4 on: June 09, 2020, 07:17:21 PM »
When shooting big bore especially it's not needed to have finite reticles. Both Steve and I love our Texans but in truth his .25 Sumatra and my .25 Streamline are both better shooting guns at 50 yards and maybe even a 100 yards group-wise, and certainly more consistent. The Texans are delivering on FPE, but not exactly hole-in-hole consistency. 1.5" to 2" at 100 yards is standard and 3" to 4" at 200. Some better, sure, but nothing warranting ultra-fine reticles. For field use the basic mildot scope and clear glass is where it's at.

I used that Hawke Vantage scope for a long time and bought the same BSA that Steve has to get acquainted with FFP. It wasn't as clear, but it did allow to zoom way in while on the bench and it did in fact improve my overall groups. But that performance does not translate out into the field when hunting. Too much going on with the reticles; hard to stay focused.

Different strokes for different folks. I find FFP to be VERY useful with the Texan due to the extreme range but I can take it or leave it on the pellet shooters. It's nice to have when you want it though and the more I use it (and trust it) the more I like it. That being said, I took 'the oversized side wheel' off. I just 'grab the knob' and turn it. That damn wheel is always in the way, messes with my left eye, and make the gun harder to carry and store, and both of those already suck.
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