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Is it me?
« on: January 03, 2019, 04:53:28 AM »
Fads come and go like the weather is seems. One "scope" fad is the lighted reticle. I'm sure there is place for them, and some folks probably can't do without one. I have three scopes I use regularly, and all have lighted reticles. Ones a UTG with 36 different colors available! But the truth is, I've never used the lighted reticle in any of them, and I really tried to give them a fair shake. In real-world use, the term "hokey" comes to mind. And lately, I have seen announcements for three new scopes, including one from UMARX. None of them have lighted reticles.

Built-in scope levels are another fad, or so it seems. The one scope I have with one (a Hammers), you can barely see the level with or without the reticle lit! Worse, it is too slow to respond.

I wonder What the next fad will be? If I had a wish, it would be a huge reduction in the cost of scopes with built-in range finders!


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Re: Is it me?
« Reply #1 on: January 03, 2019, 08:00:11 AM »
I WAS with you on the lighted reticle. I have that option on the Hawke Vantage that I have on the Texan. I didn't get that feature on the Hawke I put on the FX Streamline and I'm wishing I did. The reticle configuration is very, very fine. When I aim at something with a dark back ground or low light I have to pass up shots sometimes. I really wish I had the lighted reticles because I didn't realize how fine the crosshairs would really be. It was only $20.00 more and now I'm kind of kicking myself.

I predict the next fad will be cheap, easy, compact photography and video.
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Re: Is it me?
« Reply #2 on: January 03, 2019, 09:27:02 AM »
I have maybe 5 UTG / Leapers scopes with lighted reticles. I seldom find the need or usefulness of this feature.  Early on in my rat shooting escapades, when I only had a red led light at the rat stations, I'd struggle to see the crosshairs on some of the scopes. I'd flip on the light and then struggle to find the right color or power setting that didn't blind me or was too dim to be of any good. 

I have an fixed focal length SWFA scope that has such fine crosshairs that it's a bear for focusing at night and seeing anything. It, of all my scopes could use a lighted reticle.
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Re: Is it me?
« Reply #3 on: January 03, 2019, 10:57:17 AM »
Kevin, you bring up a good point about the cheap video. You can buy a fairly good, 1080P video camera/recorder for as little as $40. The smallest ones don't have ports, so you have to remove the chip to recover the video. One I've seen, has 3 I/O ports, and can hold a 256 TB chip! As I recall, it was just $199. The most amazing part is, they're really light and small. I'd think a scope mount would weigh more than the camera!
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Re: Is it me?
« Reply #4 on: January 03, 2019, 04:09:53 PM »
I picked up a 6x UTG scope with green/red light-up reticle for my son's compact 2240 HiPac'd carbine, and he initially loved it. But the last two times we've been out shooting he completely forgot the feature. Seems he's fine in daylight with just black. I can see how for some really bright days, shooting into deep shadows, a lighted reticle would be a big help. But that doesn't come up for me in my squirrel and rat control efforts. The odd time when I go out for informal HFT sessions I do find some of the more distant flat black painted steel targets challenging. But challenge is what it's all about for HFT, so I don't mind. I use a Burris 2-7x rimfire scope with fine reticle and it's a good all-around sort of scope for what I use the QB78D to do, mostly squirrels.

For rats I go to infrared, so illuminating the whole scene with about a 10 degree infrared spotlight - I took the IR emitting element out of a Carson NV-200 and elevated it about the 3x compact scope the monocular lives behind, added a long aluminum tube, then put a lens at the front end to focus down to just the area I can see through that scope. The dull red glow of the LED doesn't spook adjacent rats this way, and it vastly increases illumination on my target compared to the raw monocular's wide field, which was way, WAY bigger than it could view. Against that bright scene, the scope's black crosshairs are very easily visible no matter the time of day or night.

Can't see myself ever wanting an illuminated reticle for rats or squirrels. With well over 150 squirrels taken over the past few years, I can recall only once when a black squirrel was so deep in shadow in a purple-leafed maple tree that I couldn't figure out where the head was. So I waited. Gave the guy a few minutes, and sure enough he came out into an easier location. Patience is important in such things.
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Re: Is it me?
« Reply #5 on: January 03, 2019, 09:22:09 PM »
I have at least 6 scopes with lighted recticles. I don't have a battery in any of them. Tried using the one on my very first Bug Buster but just never really needed it so I took the battery out.
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Re: Is it me?
« Reply #6 on: January 04, 2019, 08:07:22 AM »
Perhaps I have not had a "good" one, but all the lighted reticles I have had suffered from glare which washed over the image, reducing the overall contrast.... If all that lighted up was the reticle, they might be OK for some purposes....

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Re: Is it me?
« Reply #7 on: January 04, 2019, 10:07:47 AM »
This discussion reminded me of the Dedal scope made for the Edgun Leshiy. That one has a very fine and clear reticle, but also offers illumination. In the demos on the Edgun channel there seems not to be any bleed, just a very clearly lit reticle  it's a scope intend eventually to purchase. Pricey, but seems worth it. And one of course has the option of leaving the battery out.
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Re: Is it me?
« Reply #8 on: January 04, 2019, 10:43:55 AM »
I have a Leupold AR Mark I, 1.5X4X20 mounted on a .22 Crosman Custom, with a lighted reticle. I put it together for a friend whose eye sight is restricted. It makes shooting easier for my friend, but as Bob pointed out, at the higher levels, it appears as if the whole reticle plane is lit up.

Just as bad, you can adjust the eyepiece so the LED is in focus, or the crosshairs are in focus. This shouldn't happen with a scope which sells for $450!
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Re: Is it me?
« Reply #9 on: January 04, 2019, 09:22:56 PM »
I have a couple with the lighted reticle, a vortex, IIRC, and a Sightron.
 The Vortex is too bright even on it's dimmest power when illuminated so I never turn it on.  Must be my eyes? >:( Anyway, I never seem to need it.
But the 10-50 Sightron FT scope, it sits on my FT rifle, I use it when I need it on a target that is too dark and the reticle blends in. Its rheostat works perfectly, it can be set without any washout and the target is clear.
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Re: Is it me?
« Reply #10 on: January 05, 2019, 02:21:35 PM »
I do use the lit reticle in low light and night settings. I do wish that they made them so that the dimmest setting was lower. Then again, with mild glaucoma and a mostly detached retina, I depend on something a bit more bright when the black reticle is hard to see. I can see how many think it is a fad and don't use them though. Just remember, some folks need that extra help. I do like internal levels in scopes as well, if they are quality and flow properly.
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Re: Is it me?
« Reply #11 on: January 13, 2019, 08:02:31 AM »
I have several scopes that you can switch to illuminated but haven't used them that way yet.  I can see where in low light conditions against a dark back drop they might be helpful, I've just never been in that situation where I needed it.  I like to keep things simple, less things to mess up.  Look at all the gadgets and doodads they have on trucks these days.  Just more stuff to break and need expensive repairs in my opinion. My 2009 Dodge Ram tells me when my tire pressure is low, doesn't tell you which tire.  If it's cold outside and two tires are in shade, the other two in the sun it will send you a warning. Utterly useless in my opinion.
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Re: Is it me?
« Reply #12 on: January 13, 2019, 08:04:26 AM »
I have several scopes that you can switch to illuminated but haven't used them that way yet.  I can see where in low light conditions against a dark back drop they might be helpful, I've just never been in that situation where I needed it.  I like to keep things simple, less things to mess up.  Look at all the gadgets and doodads they have on trucks these days.  Just more stuff to break and need expensive repairs in my opinion. My 2009 Dodge Ram tells me when my tire pressure is low, doesn't tell you which tire.  If it's cold outside and two tires are in shade, the other two in the sun it will send you a warning. Utterly useless in my opinion.

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