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bug buster question
« on: January 19, 2016, 08:43:59 PM »
I am thinking of getting a fixed 4x bugbuster but I really would rather get a scope with a side parallax adjuster.

Is there a scope that is equivalent to the 4x bugbuster with side focus?

By equivalent I mean fixed power between 3x to 6x, 3yrds min parallax, small, mildot, and cheap. I would actually prefer no illumination.

by cheap I mean under $350.
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Re: bug buster question
« Reply #1 on: January 19, 2016, 09:47:38 PM »
I cannot think of an inexpensive scope that meets your criteria, sorry.  You and I have similar features we would like to see for airgun optics.

I am gathering information such as this to pass on to an upcoming optics company I may be in association with soon.  They are hungry for this information.  When things fall in place I will start a thread for it.

If there is other features, all new scopes, etc you would like to give input on PM me with the info.

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Re: bug buster question
« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2016, 05:04:35 PM »
This is what I use: UTG 4-16X44 30mm Scope, AO, 36-color Mil-dot, w/ Rings

Amazon sells the scope for $135 with prime shipping. You might not need the extra power, but it is nice to have once in a while. The best thing is, the mil dots are 1/2 minute, which is half what most scopes are. I an't think of anything I don't like about it.
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Re: bug buster question
« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2016, 08:16:22 PM »
Just got the 3-12x44 compact for Christmas. I really like it. It's a little bigger than the bug buster but not by much.
http://www.leapers.com/prod_detail.php?itemno=SCP3-UM312AOIEW
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Re: bug buster question
« Reply #4 on: January 20, 2016, 09:02:50 PM »
Just got the 3-12x44 compact for Christmas. I really like it. It's a little bigger than the bug buster but not by much.
http://www.leapers.com/prod_detail.php?itemno=SCP3-UM312AOIEW

yes I looked at that too - but min parallax is 10 yrds. I really want 3 yrds... and it looks like the bugbuster is the only mildot fixed power that does 3 yrds.
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Re: bug buster question
« Reply #5 on: January 20, 2016, 09:15:58 PM »
looking around I found this:

http://swfa.com/SWFA-SS-3-15x42-Tactical-Rifle-Scope-P87717.aspx

but it is 6m min parallax and it is not cheap @ $700

and these look interesting at $360 and $420 but there is no spec on min parallax so I assume it is 10+ yrds

http://swfa.com/Falcon-Menace-4-14x44-Tactical-30mm-Riflescope-P57240.aspx
http://swfa.com/Falcon-Menace-4-18x44-Tactical-30mm-Riflescope-P80433.aspx

None of the above are small... again the bugbuster...

however the lower power at 3 or 4 is ideal for me.
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Re: bug buster question
« Reply #6 on: January 20, 2016, 09:21:51 PM »
Just got the 3-12x44 compact for Christmas. I really like it. It's a little bigger than the bug buster but not by much.
http://www.leapers.com/prod_detail.php?itemno=SCP3-UM312AOIEW

I like that scope ....try the full size version of it if ya have space its even a better deal
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Re: bug buster question
« Reply #7 on: January 20, 2016, 09:39:54 PM »
I got the compact so it would not cover up the loading port on my XS46U.
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Re: bug buster question
« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2016, 09:23:47 AM »
that's definitely a limitation....they have a glass reticule version now of the compact now as well

I thought it range found slightly better in the full size version but not by much

The compact you chose is one of the best in that price range

 
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Re: bug buster question
« Reply #9 on: January 23, 2016, 04:23:30 AM »
that's definitely a limitation....they have a glass reticule version now of the compact now as well

I thought it range found slightly better in the full size version but not by much

The compact you chose is one of the best in that price range

I am now up to 3 of the 3-12x44 compact SWAT with the glass reticle, and for the soon-to-arrive Flex, I will make it 4. There is a 4-12x40 Diamondback sitting on the shelf due to its front AO...not anywhere as nice for a quick focus whilst executing the population reduction program on nutters.
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Re: bug buster question
« Reply #10 on: January 23, 2016, 07:19:29 AM »
So it looks like the UTG 3-12X44 30mm Compact Scope with the wire reticle is the consensus at the moment for a good low cost, low power, mil-dot, side focus... (PA has it at $130)

The 10 yds min parallax is not problem for anyone?

If this had a 3 yrd min and fixed power I would be done with my search.
But I still think I will get this and give is try.

Thanks all!

If anyone finds a scope with my requirements above please let me know!
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Re: bug buster question
« Reply #11 on: January 23, 2016, 10:00:05 AM »
3 yards thats only 9 feet


Wanna save some big bucks???

at that distance put the pellet rifle down man .....get a big bag of rocks to throw :o


if ya plannig on shooting fly wings off then that's what the bug buster is for

10 yards is fine outside notta problem at all....I KNOW of no side focus  scopes that the min distance is anywhere near what a Bugbuster or other front AO scopes do

PLEASE if you find a side focus that out of box is rated and does less that 10 yards send me the information I would grab one as well

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Re: bug buster question
« Reply #12 on: January 23, 2016, 07:00:55 PM »

PLEASE if you find a side focus that out of box is rated and does less that 10 yards send me the information I would grab one as well

see reply #5 above the first link. 6 meters (6.8 yrds) min @ $700... I am thinking about that one real hard....
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Re: bug buster question
« Reply #13 on: January 23, 2016, 07:36:47 PM »

PLEASE if you find a side focus that out of box is rated and does less that 10 yards send me the information I would grab one as well

see reply #5 above the first link. 6 meters (6.8 yrds) min @ $700... I am thinking about that one real hard....

Great info but I need to clarify....LOL one that is less than 10 yards side focus  and affordable (affordable I define as not costing more than most of my air rifles)  ::)

Till then I will keep it out past 10 yards and use the rocks at 3 yards LOL

Bug buster is a good lil scope if ya need in close well respected will this be on a springer or a PCP??

Your $350 budget is generous its just not a trait that is common many Leapers models go down to 5 yards but they are all front AO versions.


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Re: bug buster question
« Reply #14 on: January 23, 2016, 08:24:51 PM »
I want to put this on a 14 inch bbl 2260 Cothran-based carbine project currently in the works so $700 is _not_ in that picture.

I have an Accushot 3-12x44 Mini SWAT Mil-dot with glass reticule on the Mrod right now and the glass etched mildots are NOT very good - with out any illumination they are ok but with any illumination at all they are a blur... you can SEE the etch marks across the dots and lines and the inside of scope reflects the light - so I never use the IR feature. (the $700 one is above may be replacing this on the Mrod - but I think I may get a fixed 10x)

This is why I was leery about the wire reticule version - is it really any better? If I can find it I will try it but...

Also this scope is rather large for a 14 in bbl carbine - I think the BB is smaller and might be the better choice.

and yes all the ones on reply #5 are large too and would not be a good fit either...
« Last Edit: January 23, 2016, 08:31:25 PM by match »
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