Author Topic: 🔴 80+ SCOPES — Comparison in Scope Specs Table 6-24x / 5-30x  (Read 110 times)

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80+ Scopes Compared in a Scope Specs Table
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Do you like scope shopping?  I do. 😄   
Do you get sometimes confused by the myriad of options, spread over the internets?  I do.
 
Wouldn’t it be nice if we could compare the specs of a certain scope group side-by-side? 🤔 
 
Then we would be able to see just which scopes are appropriate for airgunning, which ones fulfill our minimum requirements, which scopes have deal-breakers, which have cool extras, and how much each scope costs approx…!   
 
 
Many of the scope features listed below are important when scope shopping –
and the attached Scope Specs Table informs you of each one
comparing the specs of over 80 scopes side-by-side, in a very compact table.
 
 
🔶 (1)  Wouldn’t you want to know about what kind of warranty comes with a certain scope?
 
🔶 (2)  Isn’t it painful to see a scope, start liking something about it – only to find out after digging deep into the webpage that this scope has a 50 yard parallax…? Which scopes actually DO have 10 yard parallax? Good luck trying to find a search result filter for that spec when you go scope shopping….
The Specs Table is your good luck.....
 
 
🔶 (3)  I really like adjusting my parallax with a side focus (SF), not with an adjustable objective (AO) – I can hold the gun more stable if I don’t need to reach way out there. This Specs Table is limited to SF scopes.
 
 
🔶 (4)  If I want to change the turret setting I don’t need a turret cap getting in the way. 
Capped turrets seem to be the manufacturers’ way of saying:  “Zero the scope, put the cap on, and leave it alone. The turrets of this scope are not made to be dialed constantly. That’s why they have a cap!”  – 
The Specs Tabe gives you exposed turrets.
 
 
 
 
 
🔶 (5)  You shoot (plink & hunt) at changing ranges and with changing magnifications. Having a first focal plane (FFP) scope would be helpful for that, as the holdovers are always the same no matter what the magnification.
Then you only need one dope chart, just one set of holdovers to remember.
Which scopes under #500 are FFPs – and do they have the other features that I like in a scope?

If you exclusively shoot targets at predetermined ranges, you’d probably want a second focal plane (SFP) scope. Which ones are SFP? And at which magnification is the reticle calibrated?
 
 
 
🔶 (6)  Are you looking for a really light scope? Or a really short scope? But you also must have 10y adjustable parallax? Those are rare – good luck sifting through piles of scope webpages…. Or simply check the Specs Table — it's all right there. 👍🏼
 
🔶 (7)  If long range shooting and heavy projectiles interest you – wouldn’t you want to know if a scope has enough elevation turret adjustment so you can reach those ranges?
 
 
🔶 (8 )  Often scope manufacturers don’t tell you – but they build scopes where the turrets can’t talk to the reticle and vice versa, because they speak different languages: one speaks MOA, the other MIL. Not cool. But no scope seller has a filter to throw those mismatched scopes out of the search results. And how to find scopes quickly that have either MOA or MIL if you have a strong preference?
 
 
🔶 (9)  For airguns a holdoff reticle must have evenly spaced hash marks/ dots — not just plain crosshairs or a powder burner bullet drop compensating reticle [BDC]). The scopes in the Specs Table qualify!
 
 
 
🔶 (10)  You hunt and want an all-round scope that can take close shots on a stalk, but you also want to reach out to 50 or 100y with the same scope.
Then you might want a scope with a wide field of view (FoV), and also a high magnification. Which scopes qualify?
 
 
🔶 (11)  The eyebox is the area in which your eye has to be in order to see a full scope image without dark corners. The larger the better, because the quicker you can aim and shot on a hunt. 
And therefore, the larger the exit pupil at max. magnification should be. What exit pupil sizes do the top five scopes on your wish list have?
 
🔶 (12)  Maybe you’d like a gridded reticle (“Christmas tree”). But who sells one for under $500 – and with a 10y parallax?
 
 
 
🔶 (13)  Are you shooting long range and dial your turrets? Then you’d probably like to know how much one revolution of the turret moves the reticle: a dinky and uneven 6 mil, or a large and round 10 mil.
 
🔶 (14)  Would you like your reticle hash marks/ dots numbered so you can find your correct holdoff quicker?
 
🔶 (15)  Is it important if a scope has an illuminated reticle? Or does not have IR?
 
🔶 (16)  Some want them thicker, some want them thinner: How thick are the main lines of the reticle?
There are links to YouTube videos where you can see many reticles "in action." 
 

Happy scope shopping!!  😊   
 
Matthias

 
 
Attachment:
Scope Specs Table
6-24x /  5-25x / 5-30x / 4-20x
« Last Edit: August 28, 2021, 12:47:59 PM by JungleShooter »


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Re: 🔴 80+ SCOPES — Comparison in Scope Specs Table 6-24x / 5-30x
« Reply #1 on: August 28, 2021, 04:00:54 AM »
I would like to think that your average airgunnner is more in tune with most of the (look for these) attributes, especially the short-yardage parallax adjustment.

Some of the attributes strongly depend on how "you" use your scope. As an example, FFP vs. SFP. If you're into resetting the vertical windage knob (rezeroing) for distance, vs. using the reticle ticks as it were.

Everyone, so it seems, has their own preference with respect to reticles. I don't like busy one, but I like the ones with range-estimating etchings. I shoot a lot of pigeons, and hence I know how much reticle they should fill (between the lines0. This can give me a good estimation of the distance to target. Once the distance gets past about 100 yards, out comes the rangefinder.

There are other choices too, but this reply is already too long!
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Re: 🔴 80+ SCOPES — Comparison in Scope Specs Table 6-24x / 5-30x
« Reply #2 on: August 28, 2021, 05:35:48 AM »
Most people can't shoot as good as their scope anyway. A non-Guilder airgun buddy of mine uses an old (40+ years) fixed 4X off of a deer rifle and he's as deadly as they come with his 'obsolete' 8-9 year old FX Royale .25. He a knob turner and has markings all over his elevation adjustment.

Scopes can be like a lot of things in that it helps to 'work up' to quality. Decent glass is a big factor, but the other stuff like tactical reticles, ffp, etc. are just fluff and generally specific to certain type of shooting. You don't need any of it. Do I have it/them on some scopes? Yes. Did it help with accuracy (i.e. tighter groups)? A little, which was helpful for ammo data collecting (specifically big bore) and making notes on final tuning. However, I pulled my 6x24 Hawke Sidewinder off of my .308 Texan hunting gun and put the trusty Hawke Vantage back on. Just as clear, much simpler, and easier to acquire the target.

I totally disagree on the statement of hunting and needing high magnification for 100 yard shots or a wide field view. You are not taking fast moving/running shots at game with an airgun. Pellets aren't fast enough and leading the target insane distances isn't effective. You can leave any ag on 4X and (barring any specific needs related to an individual's eyesight) it will work for just about everything.

Airgunnners are RIDICULOUSLY infatuated with magnification. Seeing the misses and shitty shots up close isn't going to help move them closer to the bullseye, lol.

You bring up some interesting points, Matthias. It's up to each individual shooter and what works best for him or her. But the fact remains, 95% of the airgun shooters can't shoot even close to the level of their scopes, me included. Scope makers love to market and I drink the Koolaid too just like everybody, but at the end of the day gimmicks and gadgets don't really do much for the average shooter. In a nutshell, if you don't have a $700.00 Hawke scope and instead buy a $150.00 BSA off of Amazon you are not at a disadvantage. I know, because I have both of them and neither effected my results. I used the BSA on all of my 400 and 500 yard work and it was stellar. Granted, the clarity of the glass isn't where the other scopes are at but it's still a good scope. The proof is on the paper.

I don't pay attention to the fine details on scopes (10 yard vs. 50 paralax, etc.) and maybe I should. But most of my focus is on making the bullet/pellet go where I'm pointing and that means air pressure, tune, hold, and shooting ability; all things that come into play much more than the scope in relating to where my projectile hits the target, which is of course the ultimate goal.

But, if I can be cynical, 'engineers have to be engineers'. A lot of tech junkies that are into airguns (and every other hobby with moving parts) need to solve problems that don't exist. Some even pray for shit to fail so that they have something to work on. I'm different in that I like to lessen my variables as much as possible and 'dumb down' my shooting. To each their own.



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Re: 🔴 80+ SCOPES — Comparison in Scope Specs Table 6-24x / 5-30x
« Reply #3 on: August 28, 2021, 09:35:12 AM »
I have been slowly but surely ditching my higher magnification scopes for hunting, and going towards using lower magnification scopes. When my heart is pumping because there's a turkey closing ground towards me, I struggle to find it when the scope is zoomed out to 16 or 20 or 24x. So now my Texan has a fixed 6x scope. No zooming, just point, find the target and shoot.

For the Bulldog, I started out with a red dot, but I've put that aside for now and replaced it with a 2-7x Hawke Airmax. I think this might be a winner. Still I toy with the idea of a 1-4x scope. And so it goes in the business of setting my tools...
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