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Cats targeted by airgun shooter
« on: April 09, 2019, 07:33:32 AM »
This kind of crap puts airgunners in the news in a bad way.

Over the past five weeks, Oakland Animal Services--the City’s only open admission shelter--has taken in four cats suffering from severe injuries from a pellet gun. Anyone with information regarding these incidents is asked to contact Animal Control at 510-535-4895.

Friends of Oakland Animal Services (FOAS) is offering a $10,000 reward for information leading to the arrest and conviction of the person/people responsible.

We encourage the public to be vigilant with their own pets.

For more information or to contribute towards the reward: crowdrise.com/justice-for-cats


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Re: Cats targeted by airgun shooter
« Reply #1 on: April 09, 2019, 08:52:20 AM »
Ridiculous reward.
Probably a bird lover.
Shooting feral cats.
Commonly done in the urban farming community.
Keep your cat inside.
Come to your own conclusion.
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« Reply #2 on: April 09, 2019, 09:04:29 AM »
Ridiculous reward.
Probably a bird lover.
Shooting feral cats.
Commonly done in the urban farming community.
Keep your cat inside.
Come to your own conclusion.
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Just my opinion.

We don't know if these are feral cats. They are in a major metropolitan area, and it does not look good to have air gunners shooting cats, feral or your grandma's pet. Could have been folks dogs, or someone's kid.

My neighbor went and left their big neurotic German Shepard out in the backyard all night long on Sunday. It barked it's brains out. Now, you and I know I could sneak up the hill, and with one of my quiet air rifles put that dog out of my misery, and I might have gotten some precious sleep. But, a cat or a dog that is someone's pet shouldn't outta be used as target practice.

Then there's the ethics of taking a shot that doesn't put an animal down immediately. 
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Re: Cats targeted by airgun shooter
« Reply #3 on: April 09, 2019, 10:34:16 AM »
IF a cat is outside, off your property, it is feral. Fact. FGC § 4151
A dog barking in someone's backyard is someone's property/chattel. Fact. YOU are not allowed to shoot someone's property in their backyard. Fact. That is criminal trespass and a slew of other charges. Actually, you can not shoot someone's dog unless it is an immediate threat to life and limb- unless it is in a county such as mine where the dog is harming livestock.
I am not condoning the shooting of cats in the 'burbs. (I have a wife that has been secretly feeding a feral cat, so what do I do? Nothing, I guess) As it is, it is most likely illegal to discharge a pellet gun in city limits of Oakland. I imagine, just as it is illegal in most city limits here in CA.
My problem is the ridiculous reward offered.
Of course, they mentioned the use of a pellet gun, (gun=bad) paints a broad picture, gives all airgun shooters a bad name? No, not necessarily.
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« Reply #4 on: April 09, 2019, 11:01:43 AM »
Well, that same barking dog has escaped his yard, and will roam the neighborhood until it's owner drives around and finds it. Of course I will not shoot a dog in it's own backyard, and I will not shoot a dog roaming the neighborhood. Same goes for neighborhood cats who have human owners, as well as that mangy one we call Batman who apparently is a freelancer.

 I too think that discharging an airgun in Oakland is forbidden. Here's a portion of the law:

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“Projectile weapon” means any device or instrument used as a weapon which launches or propels a projectile by means other than the force of an explosion or other form of combustion with sufficient force to cause injury to persons or property. A projectile weapon shall include, but not be limited to, air gun, air pistol, air rifle, gas-operated gun, BB gun, pellet gun, flare gun, dart gun, bow, cross-bow, slingshot, wrist rocket, blow gun, paint gun, or other similar device or instrument.

At any rate, it's a bad idea. I still think it's bad exposure for airgun enthusiasts to have someone shooting feral or non-feral cats, dogs or other pets. I think it's especially true for those folks who gleefully like to post on social media. "look at the cat I just killed. "

I need to get out in the sunshine, and shoot steel or a turkey for the pot instead of staring at a screen.

Reward? Eh.


IF a cat is outside, off your property, it is feral. Fact. FGC § 4151
A dog barking in someone's backyard is someone's property/chattel. Fact. YOU are not allowed to shoot someone's property in their backyard. Fact. That is criminal trespass and a slew of other charges. Actually, you can not shoot someone's dog unless it is an immediate threat to life and limb- unless it is in a county such as mine where the dog is harming livestock.
I am not condoning the shooting of cats in the 'burbs. (I have a wife that has been secretly feeding a feral cat, so what do I do? Nothing, I guess) As it is, it is most likely illegal to discharge a pellet gun in city limits of Oakland. I imagine, just as it is illegal in most city limits here in CA.
My problem is the ridiculous reward offered.
Of course, they mentioned the use of a pellet gun, (gun=bad) paints a broad picture, gives all airgun shooters a bad name? No, not necessarily.
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Re: Cats targeted by airgun shooter
« Reply #5 on: April 09, 2019, 11:31:37 AM »
Yes, a reward for the shooting of a cat, how about the shootings of humans in the last week in Oakland? Priorities, Eh? :(
As I was typing the previous post, a young Tom was gobbling. I got up but didn't see him anywhere. If it's the one usually hanging out, he has a 2-3" beard. Not worth my time.

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Re: Cats targeted by airgun shooter
« Reply #6 on: April 09, 2019, 11:56:24 AM »
Yes, a reward for the shooting of a cat, how about the shootings of humans in the last week in Oakland? Priorities, Eh? :(
As I was typing the previous post, a young Tom was gobbling. I got up but didn't see him anywhere. If it's the one usually hanging out, he has a 2-3" beard. Not worth my time.

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Re: Cats targeted by airgun shooter
« Reply #7 on: April 09, 2019, 11:58:59 AM »
So, you cannot shoot an air powered arm in Oakland, but powder burners apparently are OK..
Typical.
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Re: Cats targeted by airgun shooter
« Reply #8 on: April 09, 2019, 07:04:57 PM »
Well, technically, no they aren't supposed to Frank ::).
But if you rip off your dealer, or try and take over someone else's streetcorner or look crossways to a Norte and you are a Surreno or............................ >:(
Now you get the picture ;)
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« Reply #9 on: April 12, 2019, 08:39:21 AM »
I love cats and dogs BUT. Here in my county we have the largest pop of feral cats in the state. This is per our DNR, not sure I believe them but their is a lot.  We do have a ton and over the years I have seen  a lot of feral or at least mangy looking cats, and at one time, about 14 years ago a pack of 13 dogs roaming the woods and they were not friendly. I currently have a stray cat some one tossed out and it showed up in my yard. It turned out to be a cat that had broken ribs healed crooked , he was not a (fixed male), and he is one of the most pleasant cats I have ever had. No house for him though. I have a couple of house cats who do not go out. This cat is just happy his tail wags like a dog, so he is safe here. Now as I said we have a ton of feral cats and LE used to cull the herd so to speak but if they still do , it is on the QT. Also we don't have homeless people here ! . No service's here for them. We don't shoot them, just move them along I have put many home less on a paid ride to a warm state. That is about the extent of assist they get here. We do not put actual feral cats on the bus just the homeless. Might be a few in the woods (homeless) but that is a rough way to live and the forest service tickets them if they stay any where more then 14 days, then arrest them if they don't pay the tickets. My cats are all lazy they might get mice but don't bother the game animals at all, they are fat and lazy. If someone where to shoot a feral animal a humane shot is critical. City people want you to take a animal hit by a car to the vet, not here. Vets will not treat any animal that is not a pet. Sorry about the ramble.

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Re: Cats targeted by airgun shooter
« Reply #10 on: April 13, 2019, 08:44:10 AM »
I've used the 5 mile rule when it comes to feral cats. There are, after all, a lot of barn cats which might as well be feral. They do roam, but only a mile or two. If I catch a cat more than 5 miles from any home, I nail it! And if you don't, there won't be any prey animal or bird within miles.
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Re: Cats targeted by airgun shooter
« Reply #11 on: April 13, 2019, 10:47:45 AM »
I have NO problem with dispatching feral cats (any cat that's chronically on my property) AS LONG AS IT'S DONE HUMANELY.  Low cal and low power pellet guns AREN'T appropriate for the task.  I won't even use my 22 cal pellet guns, NOTHING smaller than a 40gr 22 cal rifle (powder burner).  Just my belief system.  Humane or not at all!!
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« Reply #12 on: October 08, 2019, 10:48:05 AM »
UPDATE on feral cats. Michigan has taken off all cats from the game book. Used to be feral cats were fair game. The dog catcher would not even come out. Now , with no explaining all reference to cats is gone. Now a couple of groups ,one called paws demands you live trap the stray cat , then pay a vet to neuter it then re release it into the wild!!! No kidding you pay for the neuter then release it. The theory is as a neutered cat it will live its life out and pass away . Then no more feral cats. THESE people are nuts and shame on the state for caving in to them. No more rabbits birds etc. Then of course these same people don't want you to hunt either. This whole PC thing JUST ticks me off. Its like the airgun/nonfirearm,  new laws, try to find em.

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« Reply #13 on: October 08, 2019, 10:59:23 AM »
This is the law in a whole lot of communities, but the cats end up dead anyway. I can't say why, however.
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