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General Category => Airgun Meets and Shows => Topic started by: steveoh on October 18, 2018, 03:07:49 PM

Title: Extreme Benchrest
Post by: steveoh on October 18, 2018, 03:07:49 PM
Look at all those FX and Daystate airguns.

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Title: Re: Extreme Benchrest
Post by: Alan on October 18, 2018, 05:55:08 PM
Not a WAR among them. Where is Jim Gaska when you need him?
Title: Re: Extreme Benchrest
Post by: steveoh on October 18, 2018, 06:41:17 PM
Sure seems odd, most everyone using one of two brands. Are these guys sponsored? One has to wonder.
Title: Re: Extreme Benchrest
Post by: Motorhead on October 18, 2018, 07:59:45 PM
Sure seems odd, most everyone using one of two brands. Are these guys sponsored? One has to wonder.


There are secondary PURSES to win if done so by the use of the event sponsors guns .... FX & Daystate
AOA has for years now at EBR leaned this way to have the use of said guns be a priority .... So we read anyways  :-\
Title: Re: Extreme Benchrest
Post by: steveoh on October 18, 2018, 08:49:13 PM
Sure seems odd, most everyone using one of two brands. Are these guys sponsored? One has to wonder.


There are secondary PURSES to win if done so by the use of the event sponsors guns .... FX & Daystate
AOA has for years now at EBR leaned this way to have the use of said guns be a priority .... So we read anyways  :-\

They carry Brocock also. Hmmmm.   Not sure I approve.
Title: Re: Extreme Benchrest
Post by: Steelhead on October 18, 2018, 09:38:14 PM
All politics aside, I have had the pleasure to shoot an FX Impact and I was blown away. Steveoh and myself were shooting with an acquaintance of my brother who has an Impact .25. The first time I picked it up I was shooting a 2" spinner at 100 yards and after the third or fourth shot it was boring. It became a game to make dice patterns on the steel. I will willingly admit that I have not shot a lot of airguns, and that probably added to the impression. That being said, the proof is on the paper.
Title: Re: Extreme Benchrest
Post by: Alan on October 19, 2018, 05:00:47 AM
Well, all of us have our favorites. My bottled .25 Marauder shoots decent groups for a mostly stock airgun. But try as I may, 100 yard groups average about 2 inches or so. My WAR Cobra will shoot 3/4 inch groups easily if I do my part. Yes, at upwards of $2,400 it is a costly airgun. This said, the FX Impact and the Red Wolf are at the same price level. The only issue with either of those two, are their longevity. Considering how hard I use my Cobra, I think they both would die an early death.
Title: Re: Extreme Benchrest
Post by: sixshootertexan on October 19, 2018, 07:30:42 AM
Me and 2 other guys was shooting this weekend at BR Targets set at 50yds. One had a FX and the other had a Daystate. I was shooting my homemade junk and holding my own against them.
Title: Re: Extreme Benchrest
Post by: Steelhead on October 19, 2018, 08:31:55 AM
It's the endless topic of airguns...which one is 'better'. It's great conversation and it drives the industry to keep improving because customers want and generally will pay for the best. I think one of the biggest things that forms opinions are the styles of AG's. Powder burners tend to follow either the standard style long gun or the AR variety. Of course there are some exceptions, but nothing close to AG's.

While everyone has their favorite, two things that have to be considered is whether a gun is factory/mass produced (FX, Daystate,) or is custom made (WAR, Quackenbush)  The other is whether a gun is upgraded, tweaked, or otherwise hotrodded. I think it's important to make the distinction. Sixshootertexan made a great point; his home built setup kept paces with the FX and the Daystate. The catch is that he is obviously CAPABLE of building, tuning, and understanding the mechanics of the gun. The result is being able to put together a package that is competitive. While a great deal of AG owners can do this (especially those on the forums), I would venture to say that most cannot. I am one of those who is not mechanically inclined and I'm not ashamed to admit it. I have a lot of skills that serve me well, but gunsmithing is not one. That's why it's important to make the distinction between out-of-the-box factory guns and custom made.

I think it's wonderful to be able to buy something high quality over-the-counter that can perform at the highest level. It allows those of us non-engineers and machinists to enjoy the hobby just as much as those with lathes, fine tools, and years of experience. I think that's unique and why our hobby reaches so many different areas like field targets, pesting, hunting, extreme long range, etc. 

One thing that is a common denominator...nothing's free. Making REAL power and accuracy costs money.

Title: Re: Extreme Benchrest
Post by: d_boom on October 20, 2018, 04:38:50 AM
What is the size/type of the targets used for extreme Benchrest?  Number of shot fired?  Saving
my coins for a while for while wanting an airgun capable of shooting at 100 yards, with the accuracy
I get from my .22 Target rifles at 100 yds.  Where I shoot, shooters in small bore matches will often
shoot scores of 100 in ten shots, with the number of X's determining places (100 yd. small bore target). 
Title: Re: Extreme Benchrest
Post by: caniborrowsomeammo on October 20, 2018, 08:02:38 AM
Target can be printed.

http://www.extremebenchrest.com/extreme-benchrest-rules/
Title: Re: Extreme Benchrest
Post by: steveoh on October 20, 2018, 10:35:04 AM
Target can be printed.

http://www.extremebenchrest.com/extreme-benchrest-rules/

Only up to .35 and no cast bullets? That ain’t extreme! That’s wimpydoodle! 

Here I was thinking I could show up with .58 DAQ and break stuff. Sigh
Title: Re: Extreme Benchrest
Post by: sixshootertexan on October 20, 2018, 11:15:42 AM
Here is the bench rest target for the rest of the world.
It should be printed on 11.5x17 paper.
Title: Re: Extreme Benchrest
Post by: Alan on October 20, 2018, 12:02:32 PM
I'm not so sure, Steve. I have a cheap Korean Freedom 202 in 9 mm, which shoots best using 225 grain pellets. None of the cast stuff I've tried, comes close. But then again, we're speaking for 2 inch groups at 50 yards! About all the gun is good for (expect making noise), is killing pigs, and it does an admirable job of that. As long as you hit them obviously!