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Alan

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Why be stupid?
« on: May 04, 2020, 02:08:48 PM »
As I write this, we’re still in the throws of the Wuhan Virus, so public awareness of diseases should be at the forefront. Yet, hunters still collect their vermin kills, set them out in rows, take tons of photos as a means of bragging about their successes, without realizing the possible consequences of their actions! A good example is the lowly pigeon, a.k.a. Rock Dove. They carry all sorts of diseases, including all of the forms of coccidia. The Toxoplasmosis variety, caused by T. Gondii, can and does infect humans. Likewise, we all know about bubonic plague, Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever, tularemia, and a host of others typically transmitted by fleas. If you just have to take trophy photos, use common sense in doing so, regardless of the game in question!


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Re: Why be stupid?
« Reply #1 on: May 06, 2020, 10:42:14 PM »
Of the 224 grey squirrels I've shot, my hands have never touched one. No need. A garbage grabber works just fine. And when a friend wanted to try out a Steve Rinella recipe for squirrels and bisquits but didn't have any greys around his neighbourhood, I cleaned 4 for his use wearing heavy duty rubber gloves and a mask. Bubonic plague is heading North and there's all sorts of other nastiness in squirrel urine and nestling in their fur, no need to take risks. Only a cleaned carcass comes in from the yard, the rest gets wrapped with garbage and tossed in the trash. Yes indeed, I've been rather amazed to see how many seem blissfully unaware of such dangers. Even Rinella himself. But hey, he's got a lifetime companion living in his muscle tissue thanks to some under-cooked bear meat... so maybe not wise to follow all the actions of even such respected sources. The deer version of CJD is heading our way. Best to keep one's eyes open for symptoms...
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Re: Why be stupid?
« Reply #2 on: May 07, 2020, 06:56:25 AM »
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Re: Why be stupid?
« Reply #3 on: May 07, 2020, 12:22:53 PM »
Yeah, he's honest about having been an idiot in that case. Which of us hasn't had an absent-minded moment, made a dumb decision because we forgot something we've known for ages? But this one had a steep penalty for him and his hunting party. Unless a cure is found some day, they'll carry those cysts to the end of their days. And then there's this - I doubt he was thinking about the risk of human-transferable disease from the urine of the animal as he made an incision near the anus of this squirrel. He and his expert squirrel skinner friend (who apparently has a hand injury, covered with a bandage, but still...) both handle the squirrel with enthusiasm as though it were completely harmless. It's sure not likely to bite! But that says nothing about pathogen transfer:

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Re: Why be stupid?
« Reply #4 on: May 12, 2020, 07:37:17 PM »
I’m not much of a germ freak. I believe we can develop immunities to parasites and diseases we’re regionally exposed to so long as we stay put in one place for many generations. I suspect I’m pretty much immune to most nasties in the north Florida woods, the product of near 200 years of natural selection where my ancestors have all lived within a 60 mile radius. The ones that caught stuff from the enviroment and died were removed from the gene pool.

For example, I saw a study once that as an incidental observation noted that many trappers from the Western US carry rabies antibodies, suggesting they’ve often been exposed to rabies through their trapping activities and self-innoculated. In another study, again as an incidental observation, many southerners seem to carry antibodies against brain eating amoeba which is found in nearly all of our water sources. 

We’re a very mobile society now and not at all connected to the forces of natural selection. Few people have roots in a locality, much less roots in that locality’s natural environment.

I never wear gloves when I clean an animal. I have no fear of getting sick from a grey squirrel. My ancestors have sustained themselves on high amounts or squirrel for too long.

That doesn’t mean I don’t have some fears. Varmint blood make me nervous and I won’t clean a raccoon for fear of rabies. Once I shot a coon thru the brain with a bow and arrow, then later that evening stepped on the same broadhead barefoot. I was concerned about rabies for weeks. I also fear the brain eating amoebas, even though I am likely immune to them.

I darn sure wasn’t immune to the Lyme disease a tick gave me about a decade ago.

But you got to live life. The woods are my mistress and whatever disease she’s got, I reckon I have it too.
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Re: Why be stupid?
« Reply #5 on: May 12, 2020, 09:46:09 PM »
If there's truth in that theory, and there could be, I'm not denying it... then I suppose you owe a debt to your dead non-ancestors, those who removed themselves from the family tree before their 'weak' genes could expose further offspring to disease. As for myself, I don't see this world as being likely to revert to previous ways of living for centuries in the same region. We're moving steadily away from that model. Only total collapse of society, or perhaps a novel experiment in which the majority participated in multi-generational communal living could restore such patterns. Neither seems likely. So I'll elect not to remove myself from the gene pool. Doubly so, as at age 58 I'm done siring children. Too exhausting, and I'm pretty darn satisfied with the two we have. I'll just stick to my rubber gloves and lots of washing, thanks...
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Re: Why be stupid?
« Reply #6 on: May 13, 2020, 05:24:57 AM »
One of my family doctors often used the phrase.... "We'll be watching that/this with cautious indifference." In other words, don't be an idiot about the dangers, but don't ignore them either!
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