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Airgun Guild Forum Announcements / Hosting Maintenance Tonight
« on: March 01, 2016, 09:37:38 AM »
The hosting company just sent me an email warning of a maintenance period tonight sometime between 11PM and 4AM EST on March 1st 2016. Should last 10minutes.


General Airgun Forum Discussion / Shooting with Son
« on: February 28, 2016, 04:21:09 PM »
Just had a nice couple hours shooting in the backyard with my 9 year old son, Henry.

We shot his not so accurate Airsoft gun for a while. Then shot my 1322, and finally the Sumatra Carbine. Of course the Sumatra is a total pleasure and so accurate.

Ran out of air in my tank and didn't feel like pumping, so we ended the fun.

Time for a compressor me thinks.


General Airgun Forum Discussion / A Secret That Just Keeps Going
« on: February 24, 2016, 09:54:49 AM »
Just visited one of my normal airgun haunts, and see the Flying Dragon PCP Failure still being danced around. Mike is long gone from there now, and just makes the one sided discussion all that more confusing, and confounding. There is information being held close to someone's chest, and not shared with the community. Why? I'd like to know what in the hell is wrong with a little bit of sunshine? Are all the parties afraid of lawsuits? Public shame?

Shaking head...


General Airgun Forum Discussion / Overkill?
« on: February 21, 2016, 05:37:09 PM »
I broke my silent pellet trap that has two layers of duct seal yesterday, while shooting the 909s. So today I thought I'd better build one suitable for big bores.

I have a bunch of old lumber and scraps laying around and so I built the new trap out of 2x4's, filled it with two bags of rubber mulch, and just about hurt myself trying to move it.  :o  I'm not exaggerating... this thing must weigh 75 lbs.

Back wall is a double layer of 2x4s, and walls and top and bottom all 2x4s. Hardware cloth keeps the rubber mulch in the box. That is easy to pull out and add a new layer of hardware cloth when it wears out. Now I need to add a clipboard hanger, and give it a go.



Airgun Ammo / Nielsen Specialty Ammo .457 EPP Slugs
« on: February 20, 2016, 04:37:58 PM »
Nick at was extremely kind to send me a bag of .457 EPP Slugs in 168 grains to give a go in my still not broken in Sam Yang 909s.

I took a handful of the slugs and ran through my .457 sizer, and there was almost no resistance at all, and they all felt the same, leading me to believe I'm probably wasting my time sizing them. But it's what I've been doing with other .457 bullets I've been trying. Other cast .457 slugs have been all over the place in size, and a few require a lot of effort required to get through the sizer.

I have some EPP-UG Airgun slugs I got from and they are about the same size, and look almost the same. The Nielsen slugs have a 2x wider front ring than the Whyte's, and I think the Nielsen's have a little better quality cast. Both have some tiny defects, but nothing that I think will affect accuracy.

Filled the 909s up with air, and set up the Chrono, and my two layers of duct seal putty silent pellet trap (made with 2x lumber). Shot off 4 shots initially to sight in the rifle, then filled up the rifle again with air, then fired off 5 more shots. Chrono gave an error for the fifth shot of the second set.

Niesen Specialty Ammo .457 EPP Slug - 168 grain Results:

First set to sight in rifle.
1. 739.1 fps
2. 721.4 fps
3. 682.1 fps
4. 652.1 fps

Second set to test accuracy.
1. 751.9 fps
2. 724.2 fps
3. 695.6 fps
4. 662.0 fps
5. error

Now I will have to admit that I spent 3 hours this morning doing Jujutsu and my whole body is aching, especially my arms. One hour was spent swinging around a "Jo". My arms felt like rubber as I was cocking that rifle and then taking aim. But considering the rubber arms I think the group is pretty good. Yeah, I know, 50' ain't squat, but that's what I have to work with.  I had fun for that little bit of time, and am excited to get that 909s out in the field and stretch out my distance. And given I have a nice tight group at 50' I see no reason why I won't get a nice tight group at 50 yards.

I found my ammo that the 909s loves. The round balls are ok, but not nearly as tight as the Nielsen EPP. Ohhhhhh Nick, I'm wondering what a nice round number would be for 500 of these things?  8)

One thing I've noticed about the 909s is how hard it is to load the ammo. You really can't get the slugs all the way in the breech, and you end up with perhaps 1/8" sticking out. But the 909s doesn't really care. It fires off the slugs just like it's meant to.  So no worries.

Note: My silent pellet trap stopped the .457 EPP Slugs, but at the cost of splitting the 2x10 redwood I used for the back wall of the trap. Bah... Back to the drawing board on that.

Based on my rather short set of tests, I am convinced these are some mighty fine .457 slugs that the Sam Yang 909s truly loves. I'm a gonna order up a bunch.  Niesen Specialty Ammo .457 EPP Slug


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Big Bore Airguns / Sam Yang 909s - .454 cal vs .457 cal
« on: February 15, 2016, 01:23:37 PM »
Got in some Hornady roundball ammo, one box of .454 and one .457. I've found .457 ammo to sometimes be a bear to load, so I thought I'd try some .454 and see.

.454 is easier to load than the .457, but neither is bad. I have some .457 lead balls from Whyte which all have a sprue bump. Sometimes those are just about impossible.

Any who, here's some numbers:

Shot#V-.454FPE        V-.457FPE
1791.6194.85        809.5 209.58
2765.1182.02        778.8193.99
3736.1168.71        742.1176.13
4697.2151.15        708.3160.45
5661.2135.94        658.5138.69

Does this look about right for a stock 909s? Looks like 4 or even five shots is doable. Wanted to do a few more strings, but even with Moderator, this thing is too loud for fear of annoying neighbors.


Pardon the Dust as I add stuff and fix stuff... 


Big Bore Airguns / Speaking of Quackenbush...
« on: February 02, 2016, 01:58:15 PM »
It's been since October of last year since he closed his last list.

The airgun waiting list closed in Oct. 2014.
The waiting list has not opened since then.  I'm still working on the 2014 waiting list.
NO NAMES will be added to a closed waiting list.
I won't make any new promises until the promises I've already made are fulfilled. Watch the Status Page for updates.

Is Mister Quackenbush ok? or taking a break, or?

Airgun Guild Forum Announcements / Sorry for the short outage
« on: January 31, 2016, 07:10:26 PM »
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Donations / Donations
« on: January 29, 2016, 06:08:17 PM »
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Big Bore Airguns / Neil Clague LDC
« on: January 26, 2016, 10:28:27 AM »
I have a Neil Clague LDC I bought used. It's the large version for my 909s. Looking through it I see what I think is only two baffles toward the threaded end, and a big space of empty going forward. Anyone else have one of these and can take a look at theirs to see if this is normal? I've email Neil, twice but gotten no response.

Windmeister / Windmeister
« on: January 26, 2016, 09:40:29 AM »

We developed and make the Windmeister T1, a unique and, dare we say revolutionary, way of dealing with wind on the range. No need for wind flags, no need to guess as to what happens to your pellet/bullet  downrange, the Windmeister will show you where to aim. Fully customizable and calibrated to your particular rifle/ammo/fpe with simple adjustments.


Airgun Ammo / Anyone order from
« on: January 18, 2016, 02:49:01 PM »
I ordered some .454 and .457 Hornady Lead Balls for my 909s. The .457 ammo I have shot so far has been pretty tight fitting, and the lead balls I had were not sized, but just as cast from I have a .457 sizer, but it doesn't exactly work well with round ball. So, I wanted to see how .457 and .454 sized lead balls behave.

Anyway 10 days after ordering I've not heard a thing from Buds, nor have I gotten my order. I go to their website, and my order status says, "Your order has moved into our shipping department." So I email them, and two days later I get a cryptic:

Due to an issue with your order we need to speak with you. Please call us at 859-368-0371 Monday-Friday 9am - 9 pm EST to have a customer service rep help you complete your order. Please be aware that emails and phone calls are only answered during these hours. Thank You, Team Buds

Please do NOT reply directly to this email as our Sales Staff will not receive it.

Today, 12 days after ordering I call and they tell me that there was a problem with their inventory system, and do I want to keep the order active and have my order shipped from another warehouse.

I'm a tiny bit annoyed. First time order and they screwed it up.


Big Bore Airguns / Sam Yang 909s breech o-ring
« on: January 16, 2016, 02:46:13 PM »
Should this o-ring be in the groove or where it currently is?

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