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United Sportsmen Range in Concord, CA
« on: September 10, 2018, 04:51:21 PM »
I think it's been 3 years since the United Sportsmen range in Concord shut down it's centerfire and pistol ranges. They were supposed to bulldoze the old ranges, redesign for safety, and then build new facilities, but it appears they are stuck. We've had a few updates here and there, but now the United Sportsmen folks are even bothering to post updates on their website.

Anyone have the skinny?

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Re: United Sportsmen Range in Concord, CA
« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2018, 06:02:06 PM »
I dropped my membership last year since I didn't have the time nor the patience to drive 2-3 hrs home after the FT shoot there. The year before they had hopes of having it done last year. Pictures of what was to be, but I think the snowflakes won.
I would do more shooting FT again if I didn't have to sit in weekend traffic. >:(
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Re: United Sportsmen Range in Concord, CA
« Reply #2 on: September 10, 2018, 06:50:10 PM »
I have a feeling they’ve given up.
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Re: United Sportsmen Range in Concord, CA
« Reply #3 on: September 11, 2018, 04:37:26 AM »
Their Multi-Purpose range is open for .22 rimfire only. What? Not airguns?

I think part of the issue is numbers. While lots of folks hunt, a lot more folks are involved in skeet and trap. So, follow the money!
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Re: United Sportsmen Range in Concord, CA
« Reply #4 on: September 11, 2018, 06:07:38 AM »
The biggest factor is more than likely the area we live and the gun phobia that exists. Just yesterday I read that the quaint little wine tourist town (formerly agriculture town) of Healdsburg a half hour north of me passed a city ordinance disallowing the sales of guns in the city limits. The reason was to create an atmosphere of peace of harmony where everyone feels safe and welcome. There were no gun shops, but one had applied for a license/permit to open a business. The old school hardware stores that had previously carried guns can no longer sell them. The city however has no shortage of wine bars so they don't mind selling people over priced wine and then having them drive out of town back to their respective cities.

Gun clubs here in this area are a pariah and if they aren't pre-existing and protected I think getting anything done is difficult. Concord may be facing something like that. It wouldn't surprise me if the local city/county government makes them jump through hoops too small to fit through for fear of political pressure or the constituents making waves.
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Re: United Sportsmen Range in Concord, CA
« Reply #5 on: September 11, 2018, 06:38:31 AM »
Their Multi-Purpose range is open for .22 rimfire only. What? Not airguns?

I think part of the issue is numbers. While lots of folks hunt, a lot more folks are involved in skeet and trap. So, follow the money!

Nope it’s open to Airguns up to .22. I asked about .25 AirGuns and was told no way.
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Re: United Sportsmen Range in Concord, CA
« Reply #6 on: September 11, 2018, 10:43:09 AM »
Anything over .22 is an assault airgun I guess ;)
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Re: United Sportsmen Range in Concord, CA
« Reply #7 on: September 11, 2018, 05:30:48 PM »
pretty odd considering that area was most likely all military base at some time.  It's right there by the weapons depot. My backyard in Benicia is listed as being part of the old armory, and once a year we get a flyer telling us not to play with bombs and stuff we might dig up.

United Sportsmen range has been there forever, you'd think that it would not be all that difficult to build a range within a reasonable budget to be safe and accommodating of all sorts of rifles and handguns.

For the longest time they had images of their ideas. All gone. I think they've given up.  One post I saw someplace suggested that it was going to cost way more than they thought. Trouble is, they've pretty much stopped communicating with the community. Since they won't talk about it, then we are left to our own theories and devices.

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Re: United Sportsmen Range in Concord, CA
« Reply #8 on: September 12, 2018, 05:03:04 AM »
Aside from California's repressive rules and regulations, the EPA gets in the middle of the fray, with R&Rs that makes California look like pikers. Digressing.

Roswell, NM doesn't have an indoor range open to the public. The only one close is over 200 miles away. There is an outdoor range, but soon after we moved here in 2001, the ownership of the land used by the range changed. Getting fed approval almost cost the Roswell Gun Club's its reason to exist. The idea then was to build an indoor range, closer to town. Oh? Just for fun, I investigate the necessary EPA R&Rs governing indoor ranges. Holy Cow! I thought it was difficult obtaining a strip-mining license! But an indoor range with lead dust? I went so far as to contact a company who builds indoor ranges, primarily for law enforcement. The necessary architectural design, hardware, etc., was less than 60% of the total estimated cost. The rest was permits and licenses!

So, I'm not surprised about the lack of drive for the sportsman club.
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Re: United Sportsmen Range in Concord, CA
« Reply #9 on: September 15, 2018, 03:09:53 PM »
Too bad about the gun problems in California also affect having a shooting range.  Guess I am glade to be in Kansas.  In
town we have 4 or 5 indoor ranges, and several outdoor ranges less than an hours drive.
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Re: United Sportsmen Range in Concord, CA
« Reply #10 on: September 15, 2018, 05:28:25 PM »
Outside of the big cities ... California has so much open space and you can shoot to your hearts content !!    ranges, who needs ranges ???
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Re: United Sportsmen Range in Concord, CA
« Reply #11 on: September 17, 2018, 06:58:24 AM »
As stated the multi-purpose range has opened for .22 rimfire. The made serious modifications to the range that includes baffles that extend down from the eaves so that one cannot raise the barrel of his rifle/handgun and shoot over the mountain top (1500 feet high, 1/2 mile away). We used to shoot silhouette theree but with the baffles, you cannot shoot standing up. Too, they put some covers on the benches thata you sit under, again to prevent the raising of the muzzle. I live in Fairfield and for many years I shot there 2-3 times a month. But now,with the politics (Contra Costa County was a sanctuary county before California was a sanctuary state) and the weekend warriors (drivers who have no business being behind the wheel of an automobile) I am not a member there any longer. In the winter months they shoot indoor air pistol and low powered air rifles at the clubhouse at 10 meters (actually 7.5 yards). But, that event too is so overly political. The issue all began, about three-four years ago at a church parking lot, 1.75 miles down range from the shooting ranges. Someone found a fired centerfire case (case, not bullet)in the lot. Oh, no! Like Steve said this area was a major military are duing the war and in fact the Navy still stores small arms in the area. A large bomb explosion in the Port Chicago area killed hundreds of sailors during the war. If you want to know how serious the Navy is about the are try and sail your fishing boot to the base. So, it is highly likely that cases, bullets, shrapnel, etc still exist in the area but non one checked it out. I suggested to club management that they invite the ccounty officials out to the range just to see how safe the range really is but they would not hear of it.  A side note: We used to have old, shipping containers (you know, the kind on large trucks that they move onto trains and boats and such. Well we used to store our equipment in them, including our new Bauer compressor. The powers to be in the county alledged they were not proper structures and to be removed from the range. I guess if they were cardboard boxes like those used by the homeless it would have been OK. I think anyoin who is running a rifle range should have at least one city councilman or county supervisor on the board of governors to insure the range existence..
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Re: United Sportsmen Range in Concord, CA
« Reply #12 on: September 17, 2018, 09:16:40 AM »
Thanks for the update Frank.

It's all fascinating, the politics of the situation, and the fact that United Sportsmen have stopped putting updates on the website. That would make it appear that they are done, and have given up.

I saw they had the .22 rimfire range open, and it's also open to .22 air rifles. I asked about shooting my .25 Sumatra and Marauder, but was given the thumbs down. We all know that a .25 airgun is way less powerful than a .22 long.  :o

Crying shame is what it is. Crying dingdangdurnit shame.


As stated the multi-purpose range has opened for .22 rimfire. The made serious modifications to the range that includes baffles that extend down from the eaves so that one cannot raise the barrel of his rifle/handgun and shoot over the mountain top (1500 feet high, 1/2 mile away). We used to shoot silhouette theree but with the baffles, you cannot shoot standing up. Too, they put some covers on the benches thata you sit under, again to prevent the raising of the muzzle. I live in Fairfield and for many years I shot there 2-3 times a month. But now,with the politics (Contra Costa County was a sanctuary county before California was a sanctuary state) and the weekend warriors (drivers who have no business being behind the wheel of an automobile) I am not a member there any longer. In the winter months they shoot indoor air pistol and low powered air rifles at the clubhouse at 10 meters (actually 7.5 yards). But, that event too is so overly political. The issue all began, about three-four years ago at a church parking lot, 1.75 miles down range from the shooting ranges. Someone found a fired centerfire case (case, not bullet)in the lot. Oh, no! Like Steve said this area was a major military are duing the war and in fact the Navy still stores small arms in the area. A large bomb explosion in the Port Chicago area killed hundreds of sailors during the war. If you want to know how serious the Navy is about the are try and sail your fishing boot to the base. So, it is highly likely that cases, bullets, shrapnel, etc still exist in the area but non one checked it out. I suggested to club management that they invite the ccounty officials out to the range just to see how safe the range really is but they would not hear of it.  A side note: We used to have old, shipping containers (you know, the kind on large trucks that they move onto trains and boats and such. Well we used to store our equipment in them, including our new Bauer compressor. The powers to be in the county alledged they were not proper structures and to be removed from the range. I guess if they were cardboard boxes like those used by the homeless it would have been OK. I think anyoin who is running a rifle range should have at least one city councilman or county supervisor on the board of governors to insure the range existence..
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Re: United Sportsmen Range in Concord, CA
« Reply #13 on: September 17, 2018, 02:55:11 PM »
I can see the future for that range.
A very high priced, secluded housing project.
You cannot hear any road traffic at all and there is just occasional plane nearby landing at Buchanon Field.
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Re: United Sportsmen Range in Concord, CA
« Reply #14 on: September 17, 2018, 07:52:48 PM »
I can see the future for that range.
A very high priced, secluded housing project.
You cannot hear and road traffic at all and there is just occasional plane nearby landing at Buchanon Field.

Perfect place for housing, maybe it will be named Watts II, Straight outa Concord.  ;D You know, like"Straight outa Compton" 8)
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