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Title: So I just got a threatning email about Cothrans valve of all things
Post by: oldpro on December 09, 2016, 08:48:20 PM
 So some person whom Ive never heard of just sent me a threatening email ill leave names out of this, Why I dont know but ill post the exact email and let others come to a conclusion.   " leave cothran's valve alone! we ALL can see what you are up to ! . We have this covered !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! " Not sure why someone would send me this message unless they misread something I posted but I can say this I have no intensions of copying anyone ever or using others ideas unless I ask them first. I have plenty of my own ideas and certainly dont need to copy anyone. Ill call Don myself and make sure were on the same page and anyone whos thinking of slurring my name online or in private at least get your facts strait.
Title: Re: So I just got a threatning email about Cothrans valve of all things
Post by: Dairyboy on December 09, 2016, 09:16:03 PM
Wow sounds like some people need to relax.
Title: Re: So I just got a threatning email about Cothrans valve of all things
Post by: oldpro on December 09, 2016, 09:30:12 PM
 yea probably me LOL.
Title: Re: So I just got a threatning email about Cothrans valve of all things
Post by: Monkeydad1969 on December 09, 2016, 09:56:59 PM
Sorry to see this.  I hope the culprit at least has the maturity to come forward.

Joe
Title: Re: So I just got a threatning email about Cothrans valve of all things
Post by: oldpro on December 09, 2016, 10:07:50 PM
 Im not calling anyone out I just want it known I have a good reputation because I work hard and im honest so If someone is trying to start unfounded crap be prepared to  defend what you say as I will not let you spoil my reputation with non truths.
Title: Re: So I just got a threatning email about Cothrans valve of all things
Post by: rsterne on December 09, 2016, 10:12:23 PM
Somebody needs to take his CHILL PILLS....  ::)

Bob
Title: Re: So I just got a threatning email about Cothrans valve of all things
Post by: Crotchety geezer on December 09, 2016, 11:14:51 PM
Sadly I've seen this in action in many ways, shapes and forms as of lately in the Airgun world. Lot of people want to stir up crap rather than look in the mirror and in my opinion it's cowardice at its finest. Don't take much to hide behind a keyboard but it takes a lot more to pick up the phone and talk or go face to face.....

Hope it blows over quickly and you get the word out enough that your reputation doesn't suffer any
Title: Re: So I just got a threatning email about Cothrans valve of all things
Post by: Alan on December 10, 2016, 04:08:30 AM
Whomever must be a sore election loser.
Title: Re: So I just got a threatning email about Cothrans valve of all things
Post by: ShawninIL on December 10, 2016, 05:09:44 AM
Was their name DICK?
Title: Re: So I just got a threatning email about Cothrans valve of all things
Post by: Shorty on December 10, 2016, 08:45:35 AM
Not to encourage you in any means but, an E-mail like that would piss me off. HECK, me sending you a dual wire spring gave you some good ideas with the new twin spring your working on.

All I asked you when I shipped it to you was to post a string with it and tell me how you liked it. I ain't upset about it. Just wished someone like you would have taken it up 2 years ago instead of getting bashed about it and others calling it BS.

With the resources that you have, I would start working on your WAR valve to allow it to open easier and quicker. That's your design and has potential to allow for easier opening and closing faster almost just the way it sits now.

Just a little hint,
Think of an SSG type poppet spring. Pre-loaded spring on a guide that has a gap to the poppet head. ;)
Title: Re: So I just got a threatning email about Cothrans valve of all things
Post by: oldpro on December 10, 2016, 09:52:10 AM
 Im working on a balanced valve of my own design and will hopefully this coming year have it ready but thats another story. I was just told Don told a friend of mine I was trying to copy his valve so you can see how rumors can get started and things blown out of proportion thats why I took it public so everyone knows where I stand. And Shorty your right your dual wire spring was what got me thinking of the TSS and how simple a device can be made and still be functionally really good. I had real good results from shortys spring and the ssg so I used both ideas and came up with the TSS. Anyway its the sharing of ideas in and open forum that leads to advances and new product growth not hatred and rumors.
Title: Re: So I just got a threatning email about Cothrans valve of all things
Post by: rsterne on December 10, 2016, 10:35:44 AM
RANT ON !!!

Shorty.... you still haven't learned how to let sleeping dogs lie, have you.... you have to turn everything into a pissing contest....

I NEVER called your dual wire spring BS....
I have always admitted that a short stiff spring with a gap to the hammer helps prevent hammer bounce....
My SSG was merely an attempt to achieve the latter with less cocking force, which properly built, it does nicely....

I DO take exception to two things....

You cannot compare your two interwound springs that act as one to what Travis has done, where they are counterwound, move independently, and only the inner one is adjusted for preload....
You have to at some point admit that physics doesn't lie, and that a short stiff spring is harder to cock than the normal preloaded setup, when adjusted for the same FPE.... You somehow conveniently seem to avoid that....

RANT OFF !!!

Bob
Title: Re: So I just got a threatning email about Cothrans valve of all things
Post by: Shorty on December 10, 2016, 10:57:08 AM
Bob,
I am not comparing nothing here nor ranting. I am glad Travis was able to blend the two. Also gave an idea for his WAR valve.

I have let it go and moved on.

Don't bully me sir. I get myself in trouble too easily speaking my mind and I am trying extremely hard lately to keep my cool.

Tim



Title: Re: So I just got a threatning email about Cothrans valve of all things
Post by: rsterne on December 10, 2016, 11:17:25 AM
Tim, (please excuse the above, I forgot you don't like "Shorty"), I have not said anything negative about you or your SSS for at least a year, and in fact spent quite a long time trying to HELP you on the GTA when you were working on a regulated MRod, at your request.... I have complimented you on numerous occaisions, in fact.... yet you continue to take "shots" at me, and others, at every opportunity, and have been called to task for it by several people, and yet I have still let it go.... NO LONGER....

When you poke a sleeping dog with a sharp stick do not then be surprised if he turns around and grabs the stick and gives it a good shake.... Either BACK OFF, put our initial differences behind you (you say you have, but your comments say otherwise).... or be prepared for this kind of reaction.... My guess is that others will react in exactly the same way, they have already told you to stop with the pissing contests....

Defending myself is NOT bullying.... To the other Mods and Admins on this forum, if I'm out of line, please let me know.... I can only take so much....

Bob
Title: Re: So I just got a threatning email about Cothrans valve of all things
Post by: oldpro on December 10, 2016, 11:45:28 AM
 The monkeys coming everyone hide!!! 8) Im wearing glasses so he doesnt recognize me......
Title: Re: So I just got a threatning email about Cothrans valve of all things
Post by: Monkeydad1969 on December 10, 2016, 11:54:15 AM
And with that said...

Since you two have decided to make this an open to the forum spat, please calm it down and there is a thing called a PM that we and other forums use.  So USE it.  As entertaining as it is for us all to read the antics from you both, we'd rather not.

Joe
Title: Re: So I just got a threatning email about Cothrans valve of all things
Post by: Shorty on December 10, 2016, 12:09:04 PM
Yea buttt...  He started it. I am telling MOM !!! :D   
Title: Re: So I just got a threatning email about Cothrans valve of all things
Post by: GungaDin on December 10, 2016, 12:50:55 PM
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You have to at some point admit that physics doesn't lie, and that a short stiff spring is harder to cock than the normal preloaded setup, when adjusted for the same FPE.... You somehow conveniently seem to avoid that....
Physics may say one thing,  Please refrain from this kind of language on this Forum,
Title: Re: So I just got a threatning email about Cothrans valve of all things
Post by: Motorhead on December 10, 2016, 03:59:20 PM


(http://www.bmwlt.com/forums/images/smilies/rofl.gif)  There's your daily zinger !!
Title: Re: So I just got a threatning email about Cothrans valve of all things
Post by: Monkeydad1969 on December 10, 2016, 04:28:59 PM
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You have to at some point admit that physics doesn't lie, and that a short stiff spring is harder to cock than the normal preloaded setup, when adjusted for the same FPE.... You somehow conveniently seem to avoid that....


Really?!?!?!?! :-X
Title: Re: So I just got a threatning email about Cothrans valve of all things
Post by: oldpro on December 10, 2016, 05:42:38 PM
 Lets get this subject back on target this thread has gone 90 from where it started.
Title: Re: So I just got a threatning email about Cothrans valve of all things
Post by: Monkeydad1969 on December 10, 2016, 06:25:47 PM
Agreed.

Joe
Title: Re: So I just got a threatning email about Cothrans valve of all things
Post by: bnowlin on December 10, 2016, 06:28:41 PM
WOW
Bobn
Title: Re: So I just got a threatning email about Cothrans valve of all things
Post by: GungaDin on December 11, 2016, 09:41:58 AM
In my previous post I was attempting to illustrate absurdity by being absurd, which apparently got lost in everyone's rush to be offended.
The following is deemed safe for children and the faint of heart.

This thread is absurd. It started with the OP's post about some idiot yelling at him because they heard he was THINKING about copying a frooglewonk. Then someone else posts that he sent the OP a duel spring wiggawonk but never got any feedback.

Then someone ELSE posts to say he has never criticized the  duel spring wiggawonk, but that it could never compare to a frooglewonk.  He cites some dude named "Physics" to back him up.

Op is apparently working on a wuggawonk, which will be different from a frooglewonk or a wiggawonk.

Of course with no comparative testing(video would be nice) there is no real way to tell if a frooglewonk is indeed better than a wiggawonk. Since the wuggawonk has not yet even been invented, any speculation/accusation that it is a copy of  a frooglewonk is pure retardation.
Title: Re: So I just got a threatning email about Cothrans valve of all things
Post by: Monkeydad1969 on December 11, 2016, 11:06:58 AM
And that says it all.

Joe
Title: Re: So I just got a threatning email about Cothrans valve of all things
Post by: steveoh on December 11, 2016, 11:18:01 AM
I just laughed outloud. Thing 2 wanted to know what was so funny, to which I replied, it had something to do with a wuggawonk. Thing 2 said, "Wut?"
Title: Re: So I just got a threatning email about Cothrans valve of all things
Post by: rsterne on December 11, 2016, 02:38:49 PM
Anyone have a cure for coffee sprayed all over a screen and keyboard?....  :o ::)

Bob
Title: Re: So I just got a threatning email about Cothrans valve of all things
Post by: oldpro on December 11, 2016, 03:14:33 PM
In my previous post I was attempting to illustrate absurdity by being absurd, which apparently got lost in everyone's rush to be offended.
The following is deemed safe for children and the faint of heart.

This thread is absurd. It started with the OP's post about some idiot yelling at him because they heard he was THINKING about copying a frooglewonk. Then someone else posts that he sent the OP a duel spring wiggawonk but never got any feedback.

Then someone ELSE posts to say he has never criticized the  duel spring wiggawonk, but that it could never compare to a frooglewonk.  He cites some dude named "Physics" to back him up.

Op is apparently working on a wuggawonk, which will be different from a frooglewonk or a wiggawonk.
LOL
Of course with no comparative testing(video would be nice) there is no real way to tell if a frooglewonk is indeed better than a wiggawonk. Since the wuggawonk has not yet even been invented, any speculation/accusation that it is a copy of  a frooglewonk is pure retardation.
Title: Re: So I just got a threatning email about Cothrans valve of all things
Post by: Hobbyman2007 on December 11, 2016, 04:40:57 PM
Best post of the year award goes to....................GungaDin.

Fantastic , I needed a good laugh and cry . Now to try and explain to my wife how an airgun forum got to be so funny.
Title: Re: So I just got a threatning email about Cothrans valve of all things
Post by: Slayer on December 11, 2016, 08:50:22 PM
Best post of the year award goes to....................GungaDin.

Fantastic , I needed a good laugh and cry . Now to try and explain to my wife how an airgun forum got to be so funny.

I'll second this  ^^
Title: Re: So I just got a threatning email about Cothrans valve of all things
Post by: oldpro on December 12, 2016, 05:29:20 PM
 Well this misunderstanding is unfortunately escalated http://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=118225.200
Title: Re: So I just got a threatning email about Cothrans valve of all things
Post by: GungaDin on December 13, 2016, 09:18:30 PM
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this misunderstanding is unfortunately escalated
OMG the cancer has reached stage 4. GTA=Gateway to Absurdity...
Title: Re: So I just got a threatning email about Cothrans valve of all things
Post by: grumpy on December 14, 2016, 03:44:45 AM
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this misunderstanding is unfortunately escalated
OMG the cancer has reached stage 4. GTA=Gateway to Absurdity...

Let that shit stay over there.
Title: Re: So I just got a threatning email about Cothrans valve of all things
Post by: Crotchety geezer on December 14, 2016, 06:35:05 AM
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this misunderstanding is unfortunately escalated
OMG the cancer has reached stage 4. GTA=Gateway to Absurdity...

Let that shit stay over there.
+1
Title: Re: So I just got a threatning email about Cothrans valve of all things
Post by: BigTinBoat on December 14, 2016, 06:35:38 AM
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this misunderstanding is unfortunately escalated
OMG the cancer has reached stage 4. GTA=Gateway to Absurdity...

Let that shit stay over there.



Huh? The original poster (oldpro) post identical posts here and over there, then he "links" the post from over there on here.....and then brings attention to it when it goes south.........seems like he wants everyone on both sites to see it all........
Title: Re: So I just got a threatning email about Cothrans valve of all things
Post by: oldpro on December 14, 2016, 10:27:11 AM
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this misunderstanding is unfortunately escalated
OMG the cancer has reached stage 4. GTA=Gateway to Absurdity...

Let that shit stay over there.
Thats exactly correct that way EVERYONE knows where I stand. No rumors no innuendos just facts.


Huh? The original poster (oldpro) post identical posts here and over there, then he "links" the post from over there on here.....and then brings attention to it when it goes south.........seems like he wants everyone on both sites to see it all........
Title: Re: So I just got a threatning email about Cothrans valve of all things
Post by: oneshot61 on December 19, 2016, 07:35:40 AM
I say.. y'all put your wonks together and create an Adjustable dualshortballlancedwiggawuggafrooglewonk... And I'll take two please😁