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Alan

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Re: Americn made
« Reply #15 on: September 29, 2018, 04:01:46 AM »
Depends. If the gun is barreled and tuned for slugs, it is find. Think (fast twist) spin stabilized. But most airguns use pellets. Pellets are both (slow twist) spin AND drag stabilized.

The term wasp-waisted comes from the Victorian era, and not directly from the look of a wasp.
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Re: Americn made
« Reply #16 on: September 29, 2018, 07:00:37 AM »
Seems I don't understand the subject and the terminology well enough to discus it. Tell me this,is Diabolo a good ,well manufactured pellet or not?
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Re: Americn made
« Reply #17 on: September 29, 2018, 02:24:41 PM »
Yes and no. There are two companies known for making pellets exhibiting good consistency in size and weight. They are JSB and RWS. That is NOT to say, others won't or don't work well. Prices range all over the place, but price alone doesn't make it an epitome—consistency does!

Bob Sterne (he has a section here all to himself) is a well known airgun and ammo expert. All of his posts, including the sticky ones, are all but required reading. He is also into shooting slugs (bullets rather than pellets). Those (slugs) are an art unto themselves. But I suggest you bone up on the pellet side with PCPs before you think about slug guns.

Personally, all I shoot are JSBs. They shoot the best in all of my airguns, so I stick with them. My WAR Cobra will shoot better than 3/4 inch groups at 100 yards, and even better than that at the indoor range. Therefore, it isn't worth my time to find something that might shoot better. Now if it didn't shoot JSBs very well, I certainly would be looking for something better.

There are a few things I'd should bring up about calibers. Airguns shooting pellets (typically) have different diameters than ones shooting slugs. For example, a .25 caliber pellet gun, will have a bore of .250, while a slug gun will be .257, the same as a firearm. But! Not always. This fact adds a level of complexity which causes a lot of misconceptions with respect to the various sizes, both calibers and barrel specifications. But as you learn, all of this will sort of fall into place, so don't get hung up too much on the gory details. At least not yet.

One more thing. I did bring up earlier about the diabolo "shape". And I mentioned that pellets are both spin and drag stabilized. The latter is the main reason pellets have diabolo shapes.
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Re: Americn made
« Reply #18 on: September 29, 2018, 04:58:02 PM »
Thank you for that Alan,very informative . I got those big (16.5) pellets today and had to try them out. Remember that I'm only practicing right now for what I intend to do soon so only shooting at 25-30 ft. First shot was high right 8 inches so I figure I jerked that and the next 3 were the same place,cover them with a dime. Didn't feel right or sound right so I shot the ones I've been doing the best with next (10.5) and they all were right on the dot!I would have been better off lighting a cigar with THAT 20 bucks!  Done with those big ones and just probably pitch that tin tomorrow. Oh well,live and learn I guess.
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Re: Americn made
« Reply #19 on: September 29, 2018, 05:37:15 PM »
I wouldn't pitch them. At least for now. Your gun doesn't like them, you may, later in airgun life acquire a gun that does like them. Or maybe a buddies gun.
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Re: Americn made
« Reply #20 on: September 29, 2018, 06:38:29 PM »
You're right I know, that's why I've learned to wait some before I act ;D but I thought that was such a drastic change I thought I had damaged my gun.
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Re: Americn made
« Reply #21 on: September 30, 2018, 11:44:15 AM »
How about this then,anyone wants to try these jsb diabolo  16.20 just pm me your addy and I'll send you a dozen or so like John did me .
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Re: Americn made
« Reply #22 on: October 01, 2018, 07:31:27 AM »
Are Daisy pellets still US made?

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If you have any other questions, please let me know.

 

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Buncha BB guns that I don't get to shoot as much as I like. Building duck boats now that I'm "retired".

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Re: Americn made
« Reply #23 on: October 01, 2018, 09:01:48 AM »
Just in case anyone is interested... Under the current EPA regulations, it is impossible to open a new lead foundry in the USA. In fact, the last one (located in Missouri) closed in 2013 after a multi-million dollar fine was accessed. And... Lead is the most recycled item in the world, bar none! Yet, the change-over to non-lead batteries in vehicles, has already started. And if California is an example, soon anything lead is going to be hard to obtain, even pellets.
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