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butchb

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First break barrel
« on: September 05, 2018, 07:59:41 PM »
My friend has a Gamo bone collector .177,I've shot it and really like it. I'm planning to buy a whisper Mach 1 fusion  .177 so I looked at reviews on you tube and in the comments half are down on Gamo and call it inferior and such,others say they are fine.  I'm confused.  I plan on target shooting and black birds, squirrels  and such. Whaddyathink?


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Re: First break barrel
« Reply #1 on: September 05, 2018, 09:17:21 PM »
Well if you insist, I will give you my opinion.
Forget the hype of speed, speed of the pellet approaching the speed of sound then past it then back under it seems to mess with trajectory. So to keep the speed down you will need to shoot a HEAVY pellet in .177.
Gamo to me just doesn't ring quality to me, they bought BSA, I have a fine shooting BSA that developed a leak a month or two after buying the gun. Called Gamo since they now handle BSA and got the runaround and nothing they could do yada yada. P**s on 'em, fixed it myself.
Really, if I were you I would look at a R9 or a D34 or a hw97 for the few bucks more you will have a rifle that will last a lifetime.
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Re: First break barrel
« Reply #2 on: September 06, 2018, 02:51:10 AM »
Everything just said, and a few more thoughts:

Don't believe the "fps" claims written on the front of the airgun box.

If you plan to just perforate paper and plink targets, you would do best with a springer under 14fpe. The more over this you go, the more the gun will jump around when you shoot it. The rifle will be harder to master, and much harder on scopes.  Airgunning is a precision sport, not so much a power sport.

If you want to get the most out of an airgun, consider dropping the extra dollar to have it professionally tuned by someone who knows his stuff. (I recommend a guy that goes by Motorhead on the forums. Top notch and a straight shooter.)   You won't get the money back if you sell the gun...but you won't want to sell the gun.

You would be hard pressed to do better than a Beeman (not the Walmart Beeman, they have two distinct product lines. The better line is a rebranded Weihrauch), Weihrauch, Air Arms or Diana (Sometimes seen as RWS/Diana or Umarex/Diana).  When you take it out of the box you will immediately appreciate why you bought it over a Benjamin/Crosman or Gamo.

Airguns are like potato chips, impossible to stop with one! 
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Re: First break barrel
« Reply #3 on: September 06, 2018, 07:46:29 AM »
What are those? r9,d34?
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Re: First break barrel
« Reply #5 on: September 07, 2018, 10:40:44 AM »
Thank all of you for the input but I am a little disappointed that there wasn't more of it. I expected more on this forum but maybe this subject isn't that popular here but thanks anyway.
   I ordered a Gamo fusion Mach 1 IGT so for a couple hundred bucks I'll see where it goes. Barring any mechanical failures if the gun can perform I'm the one that can get the best out of it. So thanks again to those that bothered to reply. Btw, I use open sites,don't care for scopes.
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Re: First break barrel
« Reply #6 on: September 07, 2018, 11:36:23 AM »
I thought the responses seemed pretty good.  We started with your general question and tried to fill in the blanks.  Do you have more specific questions about springers you would like to ask?
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Re: First break barrel
« Reply #7 on: September 07, 2018, 12:48:06 PM »
Springers are one thing, nitro-pistons are another.

I have one springer in .177, and out to about 25 yards, it is amazingly accurate shooting the RedFires.

I've HAVE owned two nitro-piston airguns, and both were not much more than loud toys! The .177 UMAREX Octane I owned, wouldn't shoot any pellet I tried, at better than 6 inch circles at 25 yards—various holds, notwithstanding!
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Re: First break barrel
« Reply #8 on: September 07, 2018, 04:17:13 PM »
I'm really not familiar with the terminology enough to ask very specific questions yet. I was wanting to know more about the IGT Mach 1 technology. Is this considered a "springer' ?
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Re: First break barrel
« Reply #9 on: September 07, 2018, 05:03:38 PM »
A true springer uses a spring to propel the piston that compresses the air to drive the pellet forward down the barrel. A nitro-piston has compressed nitrogen gas in a cylinder similar to those used to support hoods and hatches on automobiles, but with a lot more pressure.

NP airguns often kick like a firearm. and require specific holds to make them accurate. But some, can't hit the broad side of a barn, even if you're inside the barn! And, they're often priced to sell through several layers of distribution. For example, Big 5 can sell a $200 dollar NP airgun for 50% off, and still make close to 20%. You can imagine what it costs to make them, and ship from China, etc. About all they' regard for, in my opinion, is to spur on folks to move up to something better.

REAL springers, are VERY accurate, and for the most part, as accurate as a PCP, at least under 25 yards.
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Re: First break barrel
« Reply #10 on: September 07, 2018, 05:42:37 PM »
Thanks for the info.  I'll find out soon enough if I can hit a barn with it. I do like the Beeman, might get one of those also. Only interested in less than 25 yards.
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Re: First break barrel
« Reply #11 on: September 08, 2018, 07:15:58 AM »
The Gamo bone collector that my buddy insisted I try is a IGT and I don't recall much kick to it. I'm sure you're right about holding  it because when I zeroed the scope it didn't stay zeroed very long  even on a rest. What I've read since tells me the scope doesn't stay put properly with the jolts. I wanted to take it off but it wasn't mine so I didn't. No open sites on that gun anyway. The scope on my new one will stay in the box. Thanks for listening to my rambles.
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Re: First break barrel
« Reply #12 on: September 08, 2018, 06:54:08 PM »
After I bought my first air gun/break barrel (.177 Benji Prowler) I gave away the scope it came with and bought a $49.00 UTG 4x32 from Airgun Depot. I had read/heard that break barrels broke scopes and I heeded the advice. Greatest decision ever. Knock on wood it's been great. The mil dots combined with the fixed power is perfect. I think it's an awesome scope and you can't beat it for the money IMO.
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Re: First break barrel
« Reply #13 on: September 09, 2018, 07:01:01 AM »
Thanks for the input,that's the kind of stuff that helps me.
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