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Big bore outing
« on: May 11, 2018, 03:56:24 PM »
Took today off from work in celebration of my birthday on Sunday. I hardly ever get to go shoot the bigguns. It’s a good time throwing big chunks of lead down the range and using up a ton of air.

Loaded up the truck with the DAQ .58 (which I ended up not shooting), and the new to me DAQ.458 LA Long Barrel that I just got yesterday. Took the small tank and big boy, 20 or so pounds of lead, tripod, bean bags, and the Chrony I almost shot out of frustration and spite.

After signing in and forking over $20 I unloaded the truck and got set up at the 50/100 yard range. 50 yards is already a long distance for me as I typically shoot .25 in the backyard at 25 and 35 yards. Set up target first at 50 yards and that seemed a long way off.

Started out with the small tank and pretty quickly emptied it trying to find paper. Well I could not get the chrony to behave. Finally dawned on me that the chrony was reacting to the guy next to me big boom powderburner. What? Yep everytime that thing went off the chrony registered. And most irritating was the fact the chrony did not register the DAQ. 

Moved Chrony out of diffuse light under the shooting station to the sun out side the bench. This moved the chrony to about 8 feet away. Interestingly, the diffusers got blown off by bursts of air from the DAQ.  :o

Finally gave up on the chrony and went back to the business of sighting in the DAQ. I was using the SWFA 10x, bipod and rear bag.

I have a hard time sighting in these DAQs, not sure why other than I refill the gun every single shot, and the fact that I flinch like crazy. But finally got my lead on paper.

Folks kept coming by asking what the DAQ was.  Great interest in those B.B. guns .

There was a feller shooting .22 rimfire subsonic ammo and putting five shoots inside a quarter at 100 yards. Dude was shooting prone on a mat on the ground and in the sun. He was easily the best shooter there, and his rifle sounded a bit like an airgun in terms of volume.

Emptied both tanks below 3,000 psi and it was time to leave.

Never did find a sweet spot of best air pressure or a favorite bullet. I had fun and finally figured out I only need one rifle at a time when going to the range. Also figured out I really like Steelhead’s home range better than the Richmond rod and gun club because of the varied distances set up and the feedback you get from all the gongs.

No decent groups, no favorite bullet. But I had fun!

Will go back soon and test another set of bullets at 50 yards until I get good groups. Then I’ll stretch out to 100 yards. I think the DAQ 458 is perfectly capable.
« Last Edit: May 11, 2018, 07:20:10 PM by steveoh »


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Re: Big bore outing
« Reply #1 on: May 11, 2018, 08:33:15 PM »
Pimpin' ain't easy and neither is getting a big bore to behave right off the get go. Kudos for nutting it up and just putting a day under your belt. Had to be done; we all do it. In drag racing terms you fired it up, did a burnout, and made a half pass shakedown run to make sure nothin' blew up. It passed the test and you made progress (got on the paper)  Chrony numbers...bummer but the accuracy is more important at first IMO. You need the psychological feedback that 'Yes, I CAN hit a target!!' so you can have the motivation to figure it out. At least you'll be on the paper when you do it again and the numbers will be worth more.

I was going to the public range (Circle S) at first to get straightened out too. I made it effective time because I brought my new .308 Remington 782 as well since I don't shoot it at home (only two shots a year, God willing)  Never bothered with the chrony there. I also shot the sun/safety roof trying to stretch the Texan to 200 yards. I was using the bipod and the gun was higher than I thought. I heard it and saw little splinters drifting down but apparently nobody else did. Avoided the embarrassment.

One thing that I love to do is to shoot my tethered Texan down to around 2800 and then tether the .25 Armada. I can shoot forever tethered up with that at 2800 psi. It just seems to work out; the Texan starts to drop off performance and the air is perfect for the .25 without using a reg. It really prolongs a shooting session.

Speaking of shooting sessions...I'm sniffing a day in the not-too-distant future where we might have to do a big bore shooting day. All of my steel target heads are custom made to fit on T posts. With a little strategic planning I can just take them with us up to the mountain and put them on existing T post fences, or at worst just throw a few posts (fin removed) in the truck and set 'em where we want. Maybe a sun shade, some vittles, cold beverages. You should have your compressor by then (oh wait, you haven't ordered one yet. My bad) :)  and the farm is just a few hundred yards away for access to power. The grass is so high at my place that only a couple of spinners are visible above the grass. I'm praying the price for having you @$$#oles over for the fun shoot!!! Mike and I mowed like three times prior to that day (aided by the dry February) so it primed the field (which now appears to be a food plot) perfectly for rapid growth. Combined with a super-wet April and you get 6' of oat grass. I'm letting it calm down anyways now as deer season approaches; by the time the grass is manageable I won't want to be ringing the church bells.

Glad you got out and blew of some steam (air).

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« Last Edit: May 11, 2018, 08:39:03 PM by Steelhead »
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Re: Big bore outing
« Reply #2 on: May 11, 2018, 10:09:41 PM »
I'm kinda hard headed at times. Well, make that focused on the task at hand, and perhaps a bit obsessed. Yep, that's me.

I had some bullets that are grouping within a 5" circle at 50yards, and hitting paper at 100. Not good enough. I'm going to find the sweet combination of bullets, air, and my own zen like shooting ability. hahahaha, just laughed out loud. Gotta fix that flinch.

Just the other day with my Marauder, I put 18 .25 pellets in a 1/2 hole at 25 yards without thinking about it, and without trying hard. Most of those pellets went into a 3/8" hole, and the rest spread out a bit as I was shooting pretty fast from the tripod. Not too bad, not super fantastic, but that's what I want out of a big bore out to 50yards. Seems reasonable. Maybe the group spreads out to 2", that's doable. That's my goal.

The chrony is an awesome diagnostic tool but mine is giving me fits. Blew my mind that a rifle ten feet off to the side was triggering my chrony. But shooting the DAQ right over the sensors just gave errors. &*&^%$.

I am thinking it needs to be 15' out in front because the blast of air from the DAQ is probably affecting it. It sure blew off the light diffusers. For a minute I was thinking how on earth did I just shoot my chrony?  Well I didn't. The air blew them off. Bob Vogel said in one of his videos that he runs his Chrony out far from his rifle. He may have mentioned 15'. I'll ask him.

Some of the powder burners were shooting 2' groups. That was amusing. At first I thought they were shooting a scatter gun and buckshot.

Usually after going below 3,000 on the bottles, like you I can keep the Marauder going forever. It's happy place is at 2500psi, so nice and quiet, and perfectly slings lead at 25-35 yards. But today after leaving the range I dropped the bottles off at the Fire Extinguisher place. $22.00. At this rate I could easily benefit from a compressor. I was chewing on a baby $300 compressor but those things are notorious for crapping out. So I look at a genuine scuba compressor and think a gas powered one would be awesome for taking on trips to the range, or your secret farms. Run out of air, just fill up in the bed of the truck! Of course having a compressor and half a dozen bottles would work also. Maybe I should have given that booster that Michael was talking about a little more thought.

The range guys gave me crap three times today for going too far forward of my shooting bench, for walking between the benches during ceasefire to move the chrony, and for sticking two stick on targets to the cardboard instead of one.  Never said sorry and thank you so many times in one day. But my politeness was well received, and the range masters came by to chat multiple times, and offered to help align the chrony so I didn't swiss cheese it. He said every single chrony he's seen at range had a hole in it.

One think I dislike about the public range is that there are no gongs or other feedback devices. Paper is fun for an hour, then I'd like to make some noise, maybe break something.  8)

I'm game for a big bore shoot!

Pimpin' ain't easy and neither is getting a big bore to behave right off the get go. Kudos for nutting it up and just putting a day under your belt. Had to be done; we all do it. In drag racing terms you fired it up, did a burnout, and made a half pass shakedown run to make sure nothin' blew up. It passed the test and you made progress (got on the paper)  Chrony numbers...bummer but the accuracy is more important at first IMO. You need the psychological feedback that 'Yes, I CAN hit a target!!' so you can have the motivation to figure it out. At least you'll be on the paper when you do it again and the numbers will be worth more.

I was going to the public range (Circle S) at first to get straightened out too. I made it effective time because I brought my new .308 Remington 782 as well since I don't shoot it at home (only two shots a year, God willing)  Never bothered with the chrony there. I also shot the sun/safety roof trying to stretch the Texan to 200 yards. I was using the bipod and the gun was higher than I thought. I heard it and saw little splinters drifting down but apparently nobody else did. Avoided the embarrassment.

One thing that I love to do is to shoot my tethered Texan down to around 2800 and then tether the .25 Armada. I can shoot forever tethered up with that at 2800 psi. It just seems to work out; the Texan starts to drop off performance and the air is perfect for the .25 without using a reg. It really prolongs a shooting session.

Speaking of shooting sessions...I'm sniffing a day in the not-too-distant future where we might have to do a big bore shooting day. All of my steel target heads are custom made to fit on T posts. With a little strategic planning I can just take them with us up to the mountain and put them on existing T post fences, or at worst just throw a few posts (fin removed) in the truck and set 'em where we want. Maybe a sun shade, some vittles, cold beverages. You should have your compressor by then (oh wait, you haven't ordered one yet. My bad) :)  and the farm is just a few hundred yards away for access to power. The grass is so high at my place that only a couple of spinners are visible above the grass. I'm praying the price for having you @$$#oles over for the fun shoot!!! Mike and I mowed like three times prior to that day (aided by the dry February) so it primed the field (which now appears to be a food plot) perfectly for rapid growth. Combined with a super-wet April and you get 6' of oat grass. I'm letting it calm down anyways now as deer season approaches; by the time the grass is manageable I won't want to be ringing the church bells.

Glad you got out and blew of some steam (air).

"It's SUPPOSED to be hard! It's the 'HARD' that makes it GREAT!!!" - Tom Hanks describing baseball in 'A League of Their Own'
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Re: Big bore outing
« Reply #3 on: May 17, 2018, 02:30:28 AM »
Chrony's, bad subject. I believe I have 5 of them! Only one with a hole. As things usually have it, the best I've found is also the most expensive, the Magneto Speed V3. It works, light, dark, sun, clouds, noise, whatever. It works off magnetism, not light, or shadows. Fits on end of barrel, so you don't have to aim for the "sweet" spot like with the light sensitive chrono's, or walk into the firing line to adjust etc. I also tried the Magneto Speed "Sporter" model, but it has a hard time sensing pellets. ;)
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