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Re: Altaros air compressor
« Reply #60 on: March 01, 2017, 12:13:25 PM »
So I have successfully ingested the Kool-Aid. Just ordered one. I have a Snap-On 240v, 5hp, 2 stage, 60 gallon compressor in a separate room off my shop with moisture trap drops and a Devilbiss filter. I have it hard plumbed throughout my shop. I plan to add another manual and desiccant filter right at the Altaros so hopefully good to go. Looking very forward to not having to go to the paintball store.

BTW..today's price is $639.00 all in.
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Re: Altaros air compressor
« Reply #61 on: March 15, 2017, 11:07:44 AM »
I too sipped the Kool-Aid and ordered one yesterday. I also have a 60 gallon 7hp 100% duty cycle shop compressor that will do 10.3cfm at 90psi.  All I have are 2 inline water/oil traps at the moment. May look into a large desiccant dryer later on. Is there a large capacity desiccant filter recommended? All I see are the small one's that might hold a cup of media.
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Re: Altaros air compressor
« Reply #62 on: March 15, 2017, 09:26:41 PM »
I too sipped the Kool-Aid and ordered one yesterday. I also have a 60 gallon 7hp 100% duty cycle shop compressor that will do 10.3cfm at 90psi.  All I have are 2 inline water/oil traps at the moment. May look into a large desiccant dryer later on. Is there a large capacity desiccant filter recommended? All I see are the small one's that might hold a cup of media.

I ordered a DeVilbiss QC3 that I plan to use exclusively for the Altaros. I'm in the body shop business and my paint rep really bragged on the QC3. I have been running it without it as it's not here yet, I am using a Sharpe F88 filter that I have plumbed in my system. I must say that there in nothing in the mechanical or desiccant filters that are included in the Altaros at all. 
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Re: Altaros air compressor
« Reply #63 on: March 18, 2017, 11:29:19 AM »
Hi guys! This is my first post, new to pcp airguns. A friend of mine messaged me a link to this thread. This Altaros booster pump is pretty slick, it's nearly identical to the Clark pump design used in hydraulics and water filtration systems, except the Clark pump is mechanically attached to the pilot valve the diverts the (water) air through L1/L2 and R1/R2. It doesn't require a 12v contact and solenoid to change position. I'm guessing they changed that to try and make it a little different for patent reasons.

I just wanted to offer up an alternate solution. As slick as this is, you're still running a large, high volume, low pressure compressor as an air source. This still adds to the cost, consumes power, makes noise, needs maintenances, etc.

Wouldn't a self contained HPAC like the Mrod Airmax II be a bit better? It's a bit bulky, but you could put it on a cart if you wanted to move it around. It appears to be a lot faster than anything short of a professional scuba tank compressor. I did some searching around and found a Chinese distributor for that 120v, 2 cylinder, water cooled, 70 lb compressor. They want $345 for the compressor and $246 for s/h (I think it's through DHL and arrives in about 5 days.) It comes in a wooden crate.

I think $591 for a HPAC of that size and speed is a pretty good deal. I couldn't find anything better anywhere on Alibaba. They also give discounts on unit price and s/h for volume purchases. If anyone is interested, I can post up the details and email address of the vendor, if that doesn't break any rules.

I was going to go that route, but my local scuba shop was willing to give me a 10 fill card for $40 for 4500 psi SCBA tanks and if I bring them in at 2,000 psi, he only charges me for 1/2 fill. I have a 45 min and a 60 min Drager tanks I picked up cheap, so I'll just schlep those to work every couple of weeks and let the dive shop refill them for $2 ea.
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Re: Altaros air compressor
« Reply #64 on: March 18, 2017, 12:13:54 PM »
If the tanks are older than 15 years and or need hydra-test, the dive shop probably won't fill them.  Other wise, looks good to me.  Regards, Tom
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Re: Altaros air compressor
« Reply #65 on: March 18, 2017, 01:03:58 PM »
If the tanks are older than 15 years and or need hydra-test, the dive shop probably won't fill them.  Other wise, looks good to me.  Regards, Tom

yes, one tank was mfd in 2008 and they just hydro'd it last week, the other was mfd in 2009 and was recently hydro'd. They won't fill them after 2023 and 2024 respectively, but that's still a ways away.

I saw something interesting at the dive shop. They had an old (1999) SCBA bottle on the dryer and I asked if it had just been hydro'd. The answer was that every morning, they need to use a tank to calibrate the hydro machine, and they prefer to use old SCBA tanks because they last so long, even after daily hydro testing to 7500 psi. Part of the testing is that the tank must return to it's original dimensions at 0 psi, and these do, much better than steel or aluminum scuba tanks.

I just found it interesting that even though the tank was out of service life in 2014, it still withstands daily hydro testing and is used to calibrate the system that hydro tests all of the scuba tanks.
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Re: Altaros air compressor
« Reply #66 on: March 20, 2017, 06:20:15 AM »
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It would be great if you can go badmouth us somewhere else. You are just trying to slander us, nothing more nothing less your message do not have any meaningful value. If you want to introduce  own compressor. So go ahead, you can make your own thread, here it's totally irrelevant.
Multiplication pressures technology in this manner is old at least 40 years, so no one has any patents nor can infringe them.
Instead, we have an innovative cooling solution and implementation of the intake valves. Our solution to control Compressor booster via 12V is for the reasons that it was possible to simply set the desired outlet pressure, which apparently you do not understand.

Booster manufacturers are numerous. One of the largest in the US company is Haskel and then there is dozens more. Our solution is practically as efficient as their ( no air wasted as you wrote here ), difference is that our booster is supplied to end customers and not to businesses, so we are able to offer it to customers at 1/10 of the price compared to prices Haskel.
You can not compare booster and classic high-pressure compressor. It is like comparing cars and trucks. Each has its advantages and disadvantages.
We'll see whether the Chinese manufacturer can offer you the same service and support like we do.
And in the case of a claim and the need to send the compressor to fix it, the transport cost will be very interesting due to the weight of 70 lb. I suppose cheaper solution is to buy a new piece.
Everyone can decide what product want to give priority, that's the magic of the free market.
We really will not let some anonym to slander us, especially when the only thing he says are lies.

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Re: Altaros air compressor
« Reply #67 on: March 20, 2017, 10:04:33 AM »
I don't think socaldmax was badmouthing.  Even in reply #63 he says "
This Altaros booster pump is pretty slick,
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So just everyone chill out.  If you feel he is slandering you, then approach him directly thru a PM or contact me or one of the other Moderators or Admins.  But people are allowed to express their views here.

Your booster is pretty slick and I have been considering one.

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Re: Altaros air compressor
« Reply #68 on: March 20, 2017, 01:31:58 PM »
I wish I had been able to buy a Altaros before I bought the Shoebox. If for no other reason than cost. I already had a decent shop compressor, albeit a bit small for the job. Nonetheless, I believe the Altaros would have fulfilled my requirements.

I have since replaced the Shoebox with an Omega Air Charger. While I did have a couple of small issues with the Shoebox, the person I sold it to apparently is happy. At least I haven't heard from him.

My decision to purchase the Air Charger is a bit convoluted, but the main reason is the amount of air I use! Today is March 20th, and I have already gone though nearly 1,000 pellets. Just yesterday, and had to drive back home to refill my portable tank. Yes, I do need a bigger one, and that is on the way. So I suspect in my case, fill speed was and is a consideration. But for the rest of us, the Altaros most likely will fill the bill, and then some. And after all, the design is rather clever.
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Re: Altaros air compressor
« Reply #69 on: March 21, 2017, 03:54:09 AM »
Hello,
 we thought that word slick mean bad word ( like sly, cunning = translator put this words like optional ) when he followed with comparison with other products and then patent reasons and wasting air.
We  want to apologize for this, it was lost in translation.
Big Sorry to: socaldmax
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Re: Altaros air compressor
« Reply #70 on: March 23, 2017, 06:46:15 PM »
Hey Altaros I have money and looking to order one of your boosters. Please pm me the info. I live in US.

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Re: Altaros air compressor
« Reply #71 on: March 23, 2017, 08:57:32 PM »
Hello,
 we thought that word slick mean bad word ( like sly, cunning = translator put this words like optional ) when he followed with comparison with other products and then patent reasons and wasting air.
We  want to apologize for this, it was lost in translation.
Big Sorry to: socaldmax
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Re: Altaros air compressor
« Reply #72 on: March 25, 2017, 09:31:37 AM »
Hello,
 we thought that word slick mean bad word ( like sly, cunning = translator put this words like optional ) when he followed with comparison with other products and then patent reasons and wasting air.
We  want to apologize for this, it was lost in translation.
Big Sorry to: socaldmax

No problem, sometimes things are just lost in translation, and thanks for your reply.

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« Reply #73 on: March 25, 2017, 09:43:05 AM »
Did I mess something here? I thought it was an old Steve Allen-ism. As in: Neat-o-slick! Meaning the bestest, meanest, etcerest!
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I have an Omega compressor. If you're a fellow Guild member, and you pass through Roswell, NM, I'll fill your portable tank as a courtesy.

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Re: Altaros air compressor
« Reply #74 on: March 25, 2017, 09:48:28 AM »
Did I mess something here? I thought it was an old Steve Allen-ism. As in: Neat-o-slick! Meaning the bestest, meanest, etcerest!

Yes, ever so late to the party, as usual.  ;)

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