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Living with the X-Sight II Volume Two!
« on: January 17, 2018, 04:40:14 AM »
I've had fun with the X-Sight II for over two years. But as I write this, it is off to Steve(oh), our illustrious Web Master (heavy on the Master!).

Everything I wrote about it before it still true, but a few things have been added. A good example is the Bluetooth function. It does work, but it also add to the battery drain. And speaking of which, there is a following who insist the KentLi batteries are the answer—they are categorically mistaken! AA-sized batteries have a finite current limit, no matter their Ah rating. With the video running (RAV or otherwise), and any other "feature" running, the current draw exceeds their capabilities. This fact makes it mandatory to use the external battery pack. Period!

The another new feature (product?) is the laser ranger finder. Well great! All I need is another "thingy" to carry around. It does talk to the scope, and the scope responds by resetting the POI to agree with the laser-measured distance. I've never owned ATN's laser range finder, but those who have it swear at it. I do too, but for a different reason. Oh, and forget about the remote control button option. It is harder to use than the buttons on the scope!

The X-Sight II has the wonderful ballistic program built in. It is not applicable to airguns, as the minimum distance is 27 yards. But even when using the laser range finder, by the time you get everything setup, the game is long gone! Yes, it is that complicated to use. In my honest opinion, it isn't worth the effort. Ask yourself what MIL dot reticles are for? Not only that, but the firmware doesn't automatically reset the distance to target when it is reset. So when you forget to set the distance the same as the sight in distance, nothing works correctly. Do it right, and the POI is very close to the POA regardless of power. And, speaking of power....

Buy either the 3 to 14 or the 5 to 15, and leave it at the lowest power. Yes, you can zoom in, but remember it is an electrical zoom, not optical! As a result, the closer you zoom in, the more pixelated the image appears. Not the stuff of champions. In fact, it is this really low resolution (compared to an optical scope) which is its greatest failure. But then again, it sells for just $700. What should you expect for $700. Well one thing, is better Customer Service. It is hit and miss at best.

Using the night setting has a few quirks, but using the sun shade at night limits the amount of IR bloom from nearby objects. If it is still a problem, and you're like Steve (shooting from a fixed distance), move the IR source away from your position. Or, using one of the inexpensive units from Amazon. (And Steve, I didn't send my external source-I forgot-but if you need it, let me know. Buy some CR123s for the IR source while you're at it.)

If you're an air gunner (aren't we all) here is some sage advice(s). If at all possible, go to Cabelas or other retailer, and look at the scope. In some cases, it requires a rail extension to place the eyepiece in the correct position. And in most cases, an 11 mm to picatinny adapter, all from China! Limit yourself to the video record (for get the RAV—recoil activated video) feature as it won't work on an airgun. But don't mount it on any airgun with a notable kick, or you'll ruin the scope! If you don't need all of the fun features the X-Sight II offers, look at the Photon. It is cheaper, easier to mount, and most of all, lighter, and more battery friendly.

Lastly, the X-Sight II does what it does, trying to be everything to everyone. And that is, all-around medium to poor performance in every category, except for night vision where it is about a 6 to 8 depending on your individual circumstances.

PS: The next installment of the X-Sight II story will come from Steve!

« Last Edit: January 17, 2018, 09:00:03 AM by Alan »


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Re: Living with the X-Sight II Volume Two!
« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2018, 07:31:41 AM »
I am about halfway all your posts on the atnowners site. Holy Cow!

If I owned ATN I would immediately hire you as product owner and lead quality assurance engineer, and I would pay you handsomely and I would insist that the x-sight ll’s would get as many bugs fixed as humanly possible.  I’d put you in charge of the x-sight lll and let you determine what functionality makes it in.

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Re: Living with the X-Sight II Volume Two!
« Reply #2 on: January 17, 2018, 08:55:42 AM »
When you say bigger airgun will ruin it I don’t know. I have mine on a .457 Texan and about 500 shots on it and it’s working as well as could be asked. Holds zero fine so far. You are correct on the info about the digital zoom. Sadly the 2 mil reticle is calibrated for 10X zoom on the 3X14 so to use it accurately you will need to know your holdovers for a given zoom level.
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Re: Living with the X-Sight II Volume Two!
« Reply #3 on: March 28, 2018, 08:38:41 AM »
I've had fun with the X-Sight II for over two years. But as I write this, it is off to Steve(oh), our illustrious Web Master (heavy on the Master!).

Everything I wrote about it before it still true, but a few things have been added. A good example is the Bluetooth function. It does work, but it also add to the battery drain. And speaking of which, there is a following who insist the KentLi batteries are the answer—they are categorically mistaken! AA-sized batteries have a finite current limit, no matter their Ah rating. With the video running (RAV or otherwise), and any other "feature" running, the current draw exceeds their capabilities. This fact makes it mandatory to use the external battery pack. Period!

The another new feature (product?) is the laser ranger finder. Well great! All I need is another "thingy" to carry around. It does talk to the scope, and the scope responds by resetting the POI to agree with the laser-measured distance. I've never owned ATN's laser range finder, but those who have it swear at it. I do too, but for a different reason. Oh, and forget about the remote control button option. It is harder to use than the buttons on the scope!

The X-Sight II has the wonderful ballistic program built in. It is not applicable to airguns, as the minimum distance is 27 yards. But even when using the laser range finder, by the time you get everything setup, the game is long gone! Yes, it is that complicated to use. In my honest opinion, it isn't worth the effort. Ask yourself what MIL dot reticles are for? Not only that, but the firmware doesn't automatically reset the distance to target when it is reset. So when you forget to set the distance the same as the sight in distance, nothing works correctly. Do it right, and the POI is very close to the POA regardless of power. And, speaking of power....

Buy either the 3 to 14 or the 5 to 15, and leave it at the lowest power. Yes, you can zoom in, but remember it is an electrical zoom, not optical! As a result, the closer you zoom in, the more pixelated the image appears. Not the stuff of champions. In fact, it is this really low resolution (compared to an optical scope) which is its greatest failure. But then again, it sells for just $700. What should you expect for $700. Well one thing, is better Customer Service. It is hit and miss at best.

Using the night setting has a few quirks, but using the sun shade at night limits the amount of IR bloom from nearby objects. If it is still a problem, and you're like Steve (shooting from a fixed distance), move the IR source away from your position. Or, using one of the inexpensive units from Amazon. (And Steve, I didn't send my external source-I forgot-but if you need it, let me know. Buy some CR123s for the IR source while you're at it.)

If you're an air gunner (aren't we all) here is some sage advice(s). If at all possible, go to Cabelas or other retailer, and look at the scope. In some cases, it requires a rail extension to place the eyepiece in the correct position. And in most cases, an 11 mm to picatinny adapter, all from China! Limit yourself to the video record (for get the RAV—recoil activated video) feature as it won't work on an airgun. But don't mount it on any airgun with a notable kick, or you'll ruin the scope! If you don't need all of the fun features the X-Sight II offers, look at the Photon. It is cheaper, easier to mount, and most of all, lighter, and more battery friendly.

Lastly, the X-Sight II does what it does, trying to be everything to everyone. And that is, all-around medium to poor performance in every category, except for night vision where it is about a 6 to 8 depending on your individual circumstances.

PS: The next installment of the X-Sight II story will come from Steve!

More great info; I highlighted what I found extremely educational/helpful.  Thanks again Alan!
« Last Edit: March 28, 2018, 08:40:29 AM by Joe »
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