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NOE Announces More Pellet Moulds
« on: August 28, 2018, 04:34:17 PM »
I have been working with Al Nelson at NOE Moulds to increase the number of pellet moulds available so that airgunners can cast their own pellets, reducing the cost per shot.... These designs are based on the successful .25 and .30 cal moulds that NOE already have available, with a round-nosed design with a 60% meplat that makes the pellet hit harder, and is required for the nose-pour style moulds that NOE is producing.... They are using their proven "RG" pin system to provide three different depths of base cavity so that you can fine tune the weight and CG location for what works best in your gun.... As part of this major entry into supplying Diabolo style (waisted) pellets, NOE have decided to name the pellets to make their use clear.... The existing .25 and .30 cal moulds, because they were designed at the heavy end of the spectrum within each caliber will be called "Magnum Hunter" pellets, and that series will now be expanded to cover .22, .35 and .45 calibers.... There were requests for shorter, lighter pellets in .25 and .30 cal, and that will be available in the new "Hunter" series, covering those calibers, plus .22 cal as well.... In addition, a .22 cal Wadcutter design will complete the line-up, dubbed a "Target" pellet....

First of all, here are the two existing designs, currently available in the NOE Online Store....





Here are the new lighter weight offerings in these two calibers....





and here are the new .35 and .45 cal designs.... It is planned to offer the .45 cal in 0.452" and 0.457" head diameters....





Finally, here is the new .22 cal line-up of NOE pellets....







As I understand it, Al plans to produce these designs ASAP and place the moulds in the store without using Group Buys.... This will reduce the time required for the new pellets to proceed through the NOE system.... I will of course keep you informed as each new pellet mould is ready for purchase....

Bob
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Re: NOE Announces More Pellet Moulds
« Reply #1 on: August 29, 2018, 10:03:27 AM »
Great news! I love my NOE .458 HP mold. With the three varieties of pins I can cast two different hollow points, and one solid point. I do wish they were a bit heavier for the DAQ though. The 909s seems to like them just fine.

I've wondered about the pellet shaped molds and if the 909s would like those. I don't think the DAQ will like them due to lightness though. Perhaps if I cut down the hammer spring. Naw. I like the boom.
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Re: NOE Announces More Pellet Moulds
« Reply #2 on: August 29, 2018, 10:08:59 AM »
I wonder who makes Mr. Hollowpoint's molds? Those bullets are super hollow points. I've wandered around all the mold makers but have yet to see such huge openings that Bob has.



Oh, found a shop:

http://www.hollowpointmold.com/forsale/
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Re: NOE Announces More Pellet Moulds
« Reply #3 on: September 06, 2018, 01:48:20 PM »
I just got off the phone with Al, and he asked me to supply him with drawings for .25 cal and .30 cal Target pellets, similar to what I did above in .22 cal (based on the Hunter design but a wadcutter).... Looks like he is really committed to producing a variety of moulds for airgun pellets....  8)

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« Reply #4 on: September 06, 2018, 03:59:35 PM »
Ok, I'm still not convinced that a big old .575 pellet wouldn't be an awesome projectile for my .58 DAQ Pistol and Short Outlaw Rifle.

Defunct mold from AAO:

Will cast pellets from 364 grains ,394 grains and 434 grains.

Roundball in .575 is 286 grains.

Drawing is for a larger pellet. The DAQ barrels are designed to take a .575 round ball as it drops from the mold. Will double check drop size in pure lead.

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Re: NOE Announces More Pellet Moulds
« Reply #5 on: September 06, 2018, 10:35:38 PM »
Not sure why AAO made the head the same diameter as the skirt?....

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Re: NOE Announces More Pellet Moulds
« Reply #6 on: September 07, 2018, 07:57:12 AM »
Not sure why AAO made the head the same diameter as the skirt?....

Bob

Don't know Bob. I would most certainly trust a Bob Sterne Design over this though.

Can't find all my notes on what FPS/FPE the .58 pistol and rifle are putting out. While the pistol flings them, the rifle is a cannon.

286 grain .575 lead ball at 768 FPS = 374 FPE

I think the rifle is more broken in since this number and is flinging them even harder.
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Re: NOE Announces More Pellet Moulds
« Reply #7 on: September 07, 2018, 12:05:43 PM »
I just got off the phone with Al, and he asked me to supply him with drawings for .25 cal and .30 cal Target pellets, similar to what I did above in .22 cal (based on the Hunter design but a wadcutter).... Looks like he is really committed to producing a variety of moulds for airgun pellets....  8)

Bob

Bob,
Why a wadcutter? 25M paper punching? There isn't a class for .25 or .30 in WRABF, at least scores are not recognized if you shoot the larger bores.  Aren't wadcutters not as accurate as a RN Diabolo at longer ranges?
At least that is my understanding, or is Al looking for a semi-wadcutter?
I can see that as the flat meplat will transfer more terminal energy when hitting the target making it useful in a hunting situation, but doesn't it affect ballistics, or will it not matter in the .25 and .30 bores???
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Re: NOE Announces More Pellet Moulds
« Reply #8 on: September 07, 2018, 12:28:48 PM »
I would think the BC would be significantly less than the Hunter.... but Al wanted a wadcutter for punching nice holes in targets, and of course it will hit hard at close ranges.... The way I designed it, he can use the same cutting tool as for the Hunter, and just not run it as far through the top face of the mould block where the sprue plate is.... All that is needed to machine it at the same time as he is making Hunters is a shallower setting on the Mill.... Sneak Peek....





It could be a good choice for the Hatsan .30 cal Springer as well, because the .30 cal Target will be lighter than the JSBs Exacts and the NOE Hunters.... Generally Springers are not shot at the same ranges as PCPs, so the .25 cal Target may find a use there too.... and can you imagine how much fun they would be for rolling cans around....  8)  :o  ;)

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Re: NOE Announces More Pellet Moulds
« Reply #9 on: September 15, 2018, 08:48:35 AM »
NOE have a 3-day sale on with 20% off all new orders, Sept. 15-17.... You must have an account at the NOE Store to receive your emails with Discount Codes....

https://noebulletmolds.com/NV/login.php

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Re: NOE Announces More Pellet Moulds
« Reply #10 on: October 31, 2018, 02:56:03 PM »
The .22 cal Hunter (20-23 gr.) and Target (17-20 gr.) pellets are next up, they are machining the tooling and hope to run the moulds next week....

Bob
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