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Ballisticproducts.com's buckshot
« on: June 13, 2018, 06:29:53 PM »
https://www.ballisticproducts.com/Lead-Buckshot/products/65/

This site gets posted from time to time on airgun forums as a place to get cheap plinking roundball. I've always shied away because I didn't trust it. There's a warning that their products are not for airguns. It made me concerned that perhaps the alloy is too hard for rifled barrels.

I finally tried some #1 buckshot from this company this weekend in my .30 Flex. My Flex will group them with pellet-like accuracy at 50 yards and shoot them at 900fps to JSB's 870fps on my current tune. At 100 yards the buckshot drops too much to be effective and also spins off easily in the breeze. For a 50 yard plinker it does awesome. Cost for 1360 pellets is a hair under $50 after shipping. Compared to 1360 JSBs, which would cost you around $120 give or take (after factoring in 2 free tins but not factoring shipping or other discounts in).

I reached out to ballisticproducts.com to ask them why they warned against using the product in airguns. The rep said that the only reason they discourage airgun use is because they don't test the rounds in airguns and can't vouch for accuracy or for how well they would otherwise fit an airgun. But he said that they use no steel in their lead alloy and that the alloy is no threat to any steel, rifled barrel. The alloy is a soft lead alloy with antimony added for hardness.

I'm going to try their .25 buckshot for my Condor for plinking ammo. It also works out to be significantly cheaper than .25 JSBs.



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Re: Ballisticproducts.com's buckshot
« Reply #1 on: June 13, 2018, 06:40:13 PM »
Their buckshot varies in size quite a bit within one bottle.... enough that in some calibers they go from rolling down the barrel to being impossible to chamber.... That is why they don't recommend airgun use.... I have their .360 diameter and only about 1/4 of it is usable in a .357 cal barrel....

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Re: Ballisticproducts.com's buckshot
« Reply #2 on: June 13, 2018, 07:51:24 PM »
Wouldn’t a hard, non conforming .360 projectile be too large for a .357 barrel anyhow by several thousandths? So far I’m not having an issue with the .300 shot. But the TJ barrel is supposed to be .300, correct? I would figure a variance a hair or two above or below .300 is something the barrel can handle.  But if you’re starting at .360, which is already larger than the bore, and then factoring in variance, wouldn’t most of the shot fall on a spectrum of being too large?

Is there a better way to measure the shot besides calipers? I have some digital calipers I can use to measure some with.

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Re: Ballisticproducts.com's buckshot
« Reply #3 on: June 13, 2018, 09:00:19 PM »
All I can tell you is that the diameter of the #000 buck ran from about 0.352" (way too loose) to 0.362" (could not be chambered)…. I also have some of the #1 buck and #3 buck, and have the same problems with it in .30 cal and .25 cal barrels.... terrible inconsistency....

If it's working for you, then great.... I'm just telling you why Ballistics Products put their airgun warning on the website, it was because of complaints from airgunners about inconsistent sizing.... In a shotgun it doesn't matter, of course....

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Re: Ballisticproducts.com's buckshot
« Reply #4 on: June 24, 2018, 12:47:00 PM »
I picked up an 8 lb container of their #3 buck once, and it shot surprizingly well from a .25 Walther Talon Mag.  I've since sold the rifle and sent the buckshot with it, but I had a few laying around when I got my .25 XS28M.  It shot them pretty good too, but it it had a much tighter bore.   Just didn't have enough to give a good honest test, and wasn't interested in getting more.  I stick to diabolo pellets because they are much easier to load.  The buckshot loaded in the WTM with ease, but in this XS28M, I had to force them into the breech very hard.  Usually with a small piece of wood instead of my thumb because it hurt.

I've used other buckshot, too.  I get them from shotgun shells usually.  The BPI buckshot is far higher quality than most buckshot used in factory shotshells.  I do wish I could find the copper plated Hornady #3 buckshot, I would buy it in a heartbeat.  Only place I have found it is in a shotshell.

I would place the BPI buckshot squarely on the same level as the Hornady copper plated buck.  It is high quality stuff, in my limited experience.  Other than these two specific brands, I've had bad luck using buckshot.  I would honestly say, typical clamp on splitshot sinkers are more consistently produced than the typical buckshot. 

I might have to pick up another 8 lb jar of BPI #3 to verify my experience, and have some cheap ammo that shoots decent when I run out of JSB Kings.

Meanwhile, lemme know if you find some hornady copper plated #3...
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Re: Ballisticproducts.com's buckshot
« Reply #5 on: June 24, 2018, 07:14:06 PM »
I shot with them this weekend and I'm still getting good results. I did put some in the calipers and all the ones I tried (about 10) were reading .29x with a lot of variance in the thousandth slot.

I haven't tried mixing up shot from different parts of the bottle. I'm just grabbing them off the top. Out of a bottle of 1300, I've only scratched surface quite literally. I hope major variance doesn't appear deeper in the bottle.

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Re: Ballisticproducts.com's buckshot
« Reply #6 on: June 30, 2018, 08:22:27 PM »
I shot with them this weekend and I'm still getting good results. I did put some in the calipers and all the ones I tried (about 10) were reading .29x with a lot of variance in the thousandth slot.

I haven't tried mixing up shot from different parts of the bottle. I'm just grabbing them off the top. Out of a bottle of 1300, I've only scratched surface quite literally. I hope major variance doesn't appear deeper in the bottle.

I'm sure they'll continue to exceed your expectations for what they are.  Buckshot does not get any better, and there are a handful of airgunners on the web that claim XX air rifle shoots "pretty good" with buckshot or roundball.  Not sure what the process is exactly, but it is swaged, and that alone gives it a solid advantage over any cast lead ball.
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